Problem with convergent sequences

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Hi, I have the following problem and have done the first two questions, but I don't know how to solve the last two. Thanks for any help you can give me!

Homework Statement


Let a_{n}\rightarrow a, b_{n}\rightarrow b be convergent sequences in \Re. Prove, or give a counterexample to, the following statements:

A) a_{n} is a monotone sequence;
B) if a_{n}>b_{n}+1/(n^3+4), then a>b;
C) if a_{n}>((n^3+1)/(2n^3+1))b_{n}, then a>b;
D) if s_{n}=(1/n)(a_1+...+a_n), then s_n \rightarrow a.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have solved the first two. For A I have given the counterexample a_n=sin(n)/n and for B I have used the fact that as n goes to infinity, 1/(n^3+4) approaches 0, which would give a_n > b_n, which is a>b when n goes to infinity.

I have tried the same thing with C, but it gives me a>(1/2)b, which doesn't lead me anywhere, I think. And for D, I think that as n goes to infinity, s_n will be close to a_n because s_n ≈ (1/n)*n*a_n, which is the same as saying s_n \rightarrow a. However, I don't know if this is correct, and if it is, how am I supposed to express it?

Thanks a lot!
 
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gilabert1985 said:
Hi, I have the following problem and have done the first two questions, but I don't know how to solve the last two. Thanks for any help you can give me!

Homework Statement


Let a_{n}\rightarrow a, b_{n}\rightarrow b be convergent sequences in \Re. Prove, or give a counterexample to, the following statements:

A) a_{n} is a monotone sequence;
B) if a_{n}>b_{n}+1/(n^3+4), then a>b;
C) if a_{n}>((n^3+1)/(2n^3+1))b_{n}, then a>b;
D) if s_{n}=(1/n)(a_1+...+a_n), then s_n \rightarrow a.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I have solved the first two. For A I have given the counterexample a_n=sin(n)/n and for B I have used the fact that as n goes to infinity, 1/(n^3+4) approaches 0, which would give a_n > b_n, which is a>b when n goes to infinity.
Think about that last statement if ##a_n = \frac 2 {n^3+4}## and ##b_n=0##.
 
Thanks!

So that would give me 2/(n^3+4)>1/(n^3+4), which holds when n goes to infinity.

So could I use something similar for part C then, something like b_n=0 or b_n=1? With b_n=1, I could have a_n=(2n^3+1)/(2n^3+1)?
 
However, they would not hold for negative values of n? I am confused :/
 
LCKurtz said:
Think about that last statement if ##a_n = \frac 2 {n^3+4}## and ##b_n=0##.

gilabert1985 said:
Thanks!

So that would give me 2/(n^3+4)>1/(n^3+4), which holds when n goes to infinity.

I'm not sure you understand my example and I don't know what you mean when you say it "holds when n goes to infinity". The ##a_n## and ##b_n## in my example go ##a=0## and ##b=0## respectively. The ##a_n>b_n## does not hold in the limit.
 
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