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The discussion revolves around finding upper and lower bounds for integrals involving continuous functions, specifically focusing on the functions \( g(x) \) and \( h(x) \) defined within certain constraints over the interval from 0 to 1. The integrals in question are \( \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+g(x)+x^2}dx \) and \( \int_{0}^{1} x^3 h(x) dx \).

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  • Participants discuss the attempts to establish bounds for the integrals based on the given constraints for \( g(x) \) and \( h(x) \). There are questions about the assumptions made regarding the inequalities and the implications of squaring terms within the integrals. Some participants also raise concerns about the correctness of the original poster's computations and the interpretation of the inequalities.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing hints and questioning the original poster's assumptions and calculations. There is a focus on clarifying the definitions and constraints of the functions involved, as well as the mathematical operations applied to them.

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There is a noted discrepancy in the interpretation of the inequalities related to \( g(x) \), with some participants suggesting a need to clarify the original problem statement. The constraints on \( h(x) \) are also under discussion, with participants exploring the implications of the bounds provided.

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. Homework Statement
Q1. Let f(x) be any continuous function that satisfies: $$-2x≤xg(x)≤2x$$ for $$0≤x≤1$$ Find the upper and lower bounds for:

$$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+g(x)+x^2}dx$$

Q2. Let h(x) be any continuous function that satisfies: $$-4≤h(x)≤x^2-4$$ for $$0≤x≤1$$ Find the upper and lower bounds for:

$$\int_{0}^{1}x^3h(x)dx$$

The Attempt at a Solution



Soltn for Q1 for lower bounds: $$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+g(x)+x^2}dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1-2x+x^2}dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{(x-1)^2}dx \\

L_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1} (x-1)dx$$

Soltn for Q2 for upper bounds

$$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+2x+x^2}dx \\
= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{(x+1)^2}dx \\
U_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1} (x+1)dx$$Soltn for Q2 for lower bound: $$\int_{0}^{1}x^3h(x)dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1}x^3(-4)dx \\
L_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1}-4x^3dx$$

Soltn for Q2 for upper bound...

$$\int_{0}^{1}x^3(x^2-4)dx\\
U_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1}x^6-4x^3dx$$Thank you
 
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You have to check your computations.

3 hints:
For Q1, you seem to assume that ##-2x≤g(x)≤2x##, but that is not what the question states.
When you compute a square root, you have to take the positive root.
##x^3x^2=x^5##
 
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Niaboc67 said:
. Homework Statement
Q1. Let f(x) be any continuous function that satisfies: $$-2x≤xg(x)≤2x$$ for $$0≤x≤1$$ Find the upper and lower bounds for:

$$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+g(x)+x^2}dx$$

Q2. Let h(x) be any continuous function that satisfies: $$-4≤h(x)≤x^2-4$$ for $$0≤x≤1$$ Find the upper and lower bounds for:

$$\int_{0}^{1}x^3h(x)dx$$

The Attempt at a Solution



Soltn for Q1 for lower bounds: $$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+g(x)+x^2}dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1-2x+x^2}dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{(x-1)^2}dx \\

L_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1} (x-1)dx$$

Soltn for Q2 for upper bounds

$$\int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{1+2x+x^2}dx \\
= \int_{0}^{1} \sqrt{(x+1)^2}dx \\
U_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1} (x+1)dx$$Soltn for Q2 for lower bound: $$\int_{0}^{1}x^3h(x)dx \\

= \int_{0}^{1}x^3(-4)dx \\
L_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1}-4x^3dx$$

Soltn for Q2 for upper bound...

$$\int_{0}^{1}x^3(x^2-4)dx\\
U_{f}(P) = \int_{0}^{1}x^6-4x^3dx$$Thank you

In Q1, can't you just say that ##-2 \leq g(x) \leq 2##? How does it help to multiply everything by ##x \geq 0 ## to get ##-2x \leq x g(x) \leq 2x##?
 
That was how the question was defined. It said: let g(x) be any continuous function that satisifes -2x≤g(x)≤2x for 0≤x≤1. Find the upper and lower bounds for ∫[from 0 to 1] √(1+g(x)+x^2)dx

Thanks
 
Niaboc67 said:
That was how the question was defined. It said: let g(x) be any continuous function that satisifes -2x≤g(x)≤2x for 0≤x≤1. Find the upper and lower bounds for ∫[from 0 to 1] √(1+g(x)+x^2)dx

Thanks
Right.

So the first line in the OP does have a typo.
You had:
##\ -2x\le xg(x)\le 2x\ ##​

It turns out it should be
##\ -2x\le g(x)\le 2x\ ##​

This makes more sense.
 

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