Projectile motion given theta and x

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The discussion focuses on calculating the takeoff speed of an Olympic long jumper who leaves the ground at a 23-degree angle and covers a horizontal distance of 8.7 meters. The participants share equations related to projectile motion, specifically using trigonometric identities and kinematic equations to isolate time and speed. One user mentions struggling with isolating time, ultimately arriving at two potential speeds of 11.32 m/s and 12.09 m/s, while the book states the answer is 11 m/s. Suggestions are made to simplify the process by solving for time first and substituting it into the equations. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationships between horizontal and vertical motion in projectile problems.
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Homework Statement



An Olympic long jumper leaves the ground at an angle of 23o and travels through the air for a horizontal distance of 8.7m before landing. What is the takeoff speed of the jumper?

Homework Equations



8.7m = cos(23o)Vot

y = sin(23o)t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t2

0m2/s2 = sin2(23o)Vo2 + 2(-9.8m/s2)y

The Attempt at a Solution



Fifteen minutes and many permutations later, I get t = .835, .782 with Vo = 11.32m/s, 12.09m/s

The answer in the book is 11m/s.


Can you explain the steps you would take to solve this? It literally took me 15 minutes of mathematical manipulation to isolate t. The final step to find t for me was:

.697 = t2(3.6934 - 4.9t2)


Thanks guys!
 
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y = sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t
u missed a Vo here.
well get t from the first equation, and substitute it in t in the second one.
from the first equation u get
t=8.7 / cos(23)Vo
 
An easier way is to solve for t first in y = sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t^2:

0=sin(23)*V0*t + (1/2)(-9.8m/s2)t^2
Divide out t...
 
x=V_o \cos(\theta_o)t

giving

t = x\frac{x}{V_o \cos(\theta_o)}

and from

y = V_o \sin(\theta_o)t - 0.5gt^2

we have that

y = x\tan(\theta_o) - \frac{gx^2}{2V_o\cos^2(\theta_o)}

the parabolic equation describing the trajectory of the projectile
 
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