Projectile motion problem – determining initial velocity of throw

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a baseball pitch, where the goal is to determine the initial velocity of the throw based on given heights and distances. The context includes kinematic equations and the specific scenario of a pitcher throwing a ball at an angle below horizontal.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using kinematic equations to find the time of flight and initial velocity. There is a suggestion to reconsider the treatment of signs in the equations, particularly regarding the angle of the throw. Another participant proposes a more direct substitution method to simplify the calculations.

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The discussion has seen participants offering guidance on the use of equations and the treatment of variables. One participant reports successfully arriving at the correct answer after considering the feedback provided.

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There are mentions of potential inconsistencies in sign usage and the complexity of algebraic manipulation, which may affect the clarity of the problem-solving process. The original poster's approach to the problem is also noted as a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement
A pitcher throws an overhand fastball from an approximate height of 2.65 m and at an
angle of 2.5° below horizontal. The catcher, catches the ball high in the strike zone, at a
height of 1.02 m above the ground. If pitcher's mound and home plate are 18.5 m apart,
what is the initial velocity of the pitch?
Relevant Equations
s = ut + 0.5 at^2

Answer given in book: 45.2 m/s
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My reasoning was to use this kinematic equation to first get time of flight of the baseball using horizontal components, and then use this same equation again to find initial velocity.
 
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Kaiser98 said:
Homework Statement:: A pitcher throws an overhand fastball from an approximate height of 2.65 m and at an
angle of 2.5° below horizontal. The catcher, catches the ball high in the strike zone, at a
height of 1.02 m above the ground. If pitcher's mound and home plate are 18.5 m apart,
what is the initial velocity of the pitch?
Relevant Equations:: s = ut + 0.5 at^2

Answer given in book: 45.2 m/s

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My reasoning was to use this kinematic equation to first get time of flight of the baseball using horizontal components, and then use this same equation again to find initial velocity.
Hello @Kaiser98 .
:welcome:

You are inconsistent with your use of signs.

You have vertical distance the ball drops as being positive as well as acceleration due to gravity as being positive. That's all fine.
However, you have the angle below horizontal as being negative. Since you had been treating the downward direction as being positive for the other quantities, so should the 2.5° angle be positive.
 
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Also, your solution uses unnecessary algebra and the more you do of that, the more you expose yourself to mistakes. Why not substitute ##t=18.5/(u\cos(2.5^o))## in both occurrences of ##t## in the second (vertical) equation and solve directly for ##u##?
 
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I did what both of you said, and finally got the right answer. Thanks a lot!
 
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