Projectile Motion Problem - Solving for Maximum Height and Landing Distance

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The discussion revolves around solving a projectile motion problem involving a skier's jump, with an initial velocity of 21.469 m/s at a 20-degree angle. The maximum height reached by the skier is calculated to be approximately 2.7481 meters, using kinematic equations and integration. The horizontal distance 'd' where the skier lands is derived through geometric relationships and time calculations, but the initial approach leads to a negative discriminant, indicating a need for a simpler method. A suggested solution involves using the equations of motion directly related to the slope, which simplifies the calculations significantly. Ultimately, the thread highlights the importance of choosing the right approach to solve projectile motion problems effectively.
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Projectile motion problem - SOLVED

Homework Statement


This is one of the last parts of a bigger problem, but I get the first parts. So:
FBDskier.jpg


The projectile motion describes a skier's jump. The initial velocity is 21.469m/s at 20 degrees to the horizontal. Find the maximum height the skier reaches (relative to the take off point), find distance 'd' down the slope where the skier lands.

The Attempt at a Solution


First I wrote the equations:
Vx = 21.469cos(20)
Vy= 21.469sin(20)-gt

Then, I found the time it took for the skier to reach the top:
Vy=21.469sin(20)-9.81t
9.81t=21.469sin(20)
t= 0.7485 seconds

Then I found the 'h':
ds/dt = 21.469sin(20)-9.81t
*integrating...*
s=21.469sin(20)t-4.905t2
s(0.7485) = 2.7481 m

Then I drew this:
FBDskier2.jpg

On it, I calculated the 30.2 value by plugging in 0.7485*2 into an x-direction distance equation:
Sx = 0.7485*2 x 21.469cos20 = 30.2
I then found the 17.44 using just trig.

So now, I started to treat the big triangle (described by p and q) as a similar triangle with sides 30.2&17.44 and developed a relationship:
q/p = 17.44/30.2
q=0.577p

Next, I expressed d in terms of p and q:
d2=p2+q2
d2= 1.3329p2
and thus, p=0.866d
I performed similar operations and got:
q=0.5d

Then time for the skier to go the whole horizontal distance:
0.886d = 21.469cos(20)*t
t=0.04293d
And thus the time it will take for the skier to hit the ground from her highest point is:
t=0.0429d-0.7485

Now, we can plug in that equation into the equation of vertical distance travelled:
h+0.5d = 21.469sin(20)(0.0429d-0.7485)-4.905(0.04293d-0.7485)2
I can simplify that and try to find d (from discriminant and things) but I end up with a negative discriminant... Help?
 
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You might be better served to solve it more simply.

y = Vy*t - 1/2*g*t2

And because of the slope y = -x*tan30

and x = Vx*t

Where y intersects with the slope is where he lands.

-Vx*t*tan30 = Vy*t - 1/2*g*t2

Solve for t and plug it into either equation.
 
Wow, thanks! That's so much easier and makes a lot more sense! :)
 
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