Property of a sequence for a function.

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The problem involves functions defined from a set A to a set B, specifically exploring properties of sequences generated by these functions. The first part requires calculating the number of different types of functions, while the second part asks for descriptions of the properties of sequences corresponding to these functions.

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  • Participants discuss how to articulate the properties of functions, injective functions, and increasing functions in relation to the sequence {f(1),...,f(k)}. There is uncertainty about how to frame these properties correctly.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the properties of functions in terms of the sequence, while others are still seeking clarity on the correct phrasing and definitions. Multiple interpretations of the requirements are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the challenge of expressing mathematical properties in a specific format, with some confusion regarding the expectations for part two of the problem. There is an emphasis on ensuring that statements relate directly to the sequence derived from the function.

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Ok so the ideea of the proble is the following.F:A->B...where A={1...k} and B={1...n}.The problme is divided in 2 parts.
The first part of the problem asked me to write in terms of k and n the formulas for the number of functions,number of injective functions,number of increasing functions...etc.I've done that.What I don't understand is part 2 because the description is confusing for me.
Part two states the following:"For each of the type of functions from part a) describe the coresponding property of the sequence {f(1),...,f(k)} for a function f of that type."
Does this mean to show what it means to be a function,then an injective function and an incresing function and so on?
Appologies if this question is ridiculous.
 
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AkilMAI said:
Ok so the ideea of the proble is the following.F:A->B...where A={1...k} and B={1...n}.The problme is divided in 2 parts.
The first part of the problem asked me to write in terms of k and n the formulas for the number of functions,number of injective functions,number of increasing functions...etc.I've done that.What I don't understand is part 2 because the description is confusing for me.
Part two states the following:"For each of the type of functions from part a) describe the coresponding property of the sequence {f(1),...,f(k)} for a function f of that type."
Does this mean to show what it means to be a function,then an injective function and an incresing function and so on?
Appologies if this question is ridiculous.

Yes, they're just asking you to say what it means to be injective, increasing, etc. But you must phrase it in such a way to have a statement about {f(1),...,f(k)}.

For example, you could say that f is injective if f(a)=f(b) implies that a=b. But that is not a statement about {f(1),...,f(k)}. The statement we're looking for is that {f(1),...,f(k)} are k distinct values.
 
Can I say the following?
Let A={1...k} and B={1...n} then a function is defined as:f(A):={f(a)|a belongs to A}
And for injective functions f(a)=F(b) if a=b
or should I just say that f(1)=...=F(k) if 1=...=k
 
AkilMAI said:
Can I say the following?
Let A={1...k} and B={1...n} then a function is defined as:f(A):={f(a)|a belongs to A}
And for injective functions f(a)=F(b) if a=b
or should I just say that f(1)=...=F(k) if 1=...=k

No, try to say only something about the set {f(1),...,f(k)}. What do you know about this set if f is a function?? Injective?? Increasing??
 
that 1=f(1),2=f(2)...n=f(k)
f(i)=f(j) where f(1)=<f(i)=<f(j)=<f(k) if i=j 1=<i=<j=<n and
f(1)<f(2)<f(3)...<f(k)...if 1<2...<n
is this correct?
 
for what is that an answer??
 
Function: 1=f(1),2=f(2)...n=f(k)
Injective: f(i)=f(j) where f(1)=<f(i)=<f(j)=<f(k) if i=j 1=<i=<j=<n and
Increasing: f(1)<f(2)<f(3)...<f(k)...if 1<2...<n
is this correct?
 
The function bit is not correct.

If f is a function, what can {f(1),...,f(k)} be?
 
the range.
Are the other parts ok?
 
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Yes, that seems good.
 
  • #11
should I write the function bit like this 1->f(1)...?
 
  • #12
that would be better
 
  • #13
ok ...thank you
 

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