Prove Eigenvalues of an (operator)^2 are real and positive

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The discussion focuses on proving that the eigenvalues of the square of a Hermitian operator, A^2, are real and positive. Participants clarify that since A is an observable represented by a Hermitian operator, its eigenvalues are real. The relationship between the operator and its eigenvalues is explored using Dirac notation, leading to the conclusion that A^2 applied to an eigenstate yields a positive eigenvalue. The proof hinges on the property of Hermitian operators, where the eigenvalue squared remains non-negative. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the mathematical properties of Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics.
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Q: Using Dirac notation, show that if A is an observable associated with the operator A then the eigenvalues of A^2 are real and positive.

Ans: I know how to prove hermitian operators eigenvalues are real:
A ket(n) = an ket(n)
bra(n) A ket(n) = an bra(n) ket(n) = an
[bra(n) A ket(n)]* = an* bra(n) ket(n) = an*
[bra(n) A(dager) ket(n)] =[bra(n) A ket(n)] = an*
therefore, an*=an

But, I don't know how to treat an operator^2 and start this question.
 
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safekhan said:
Q: Using Dirac notation, show that if A is an observable associated with the operator A then the eigenvalues of A^2 are real and positive.

Ans: I know how to prove hermitian operators eigenvalues are real:
A ket(n) = an ket(n)
bra(n) A ket(n) = an bra(n) ket(n) = an
[bra(n) A ket(n)]* = an* bra(n) ket(n) = an*
[bra(n) A(dager) ket(n)] =[bra(n) A ket(n)] = an*
therefore, an*=an

But, I don't know how to treat an operator^2 and start this question.
What is the relation between an observable and Hermetian operators?

Can you think of a way to rewrite the operator in the expression ##\hat{A}^2 | n \rangle##?
 
Relationship: it's a postulate of QM that every dynamical observable is represented by a linear hermitian operator.

A*A ket(n) = ? but not sure what will be on the right hand side
 
safekhan said:
Relationship: it's a postulate of QM that every dynamical observable is represented by a linear hermitian operator.
Correct.

safekhan said:
A*A ket(n) = ? but not sure what will be on the right hand side
Yes, which you can write as
$$
\hat{A}^2 | n \rangle = \hat{A} \left( \hat{A} | n \rangle \right)
$$
What can you say about the contents of the parenthesis?
 
it equals =an ket(n)
than A(an ket(n)) = an A ket(n) = an (an ket (n))= an^2 ket(n)

is that correct way to do it?
 
safekhan said:
it equals =an ket(n)
than A(an ket(n)) = an A ket(n) = an (an ket (n))= an^2 ket(n)

is that correct way to do it?
Yes. Now you can use the fact that A is Hermitian to complete the answer to the problem.
 
Thanks
So for hermitian A= A(dager), but would u write (A^2)* = A*A* = A*(an* ket(n)) ...
 
safekhan said:
Thanks
So for hermitian A= A(dager), but would u write (A^2)* = A*A* = A*(an* ket(n)) ...
No, that's not what I meant. You should use the proof you gave in the OP (I don't think you need the put the proof itself in the answer, but rather use what the proof says about Hermetian operators).
 
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