Prove: Q(ζp)=Q(ζip) | Cyclotomic Polynomials

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The discussion centers on proving the equality Q(ζp) = Q(ζip) for cyclotomic polynomials, where ζp represents the p-th root of unity e2πi/p and i is an integer coprime to p. Participants emphasize the importance of demonstrating that ζp is a power of ζip, leveraging the properties of cyclic groups and the relationship between roots of unity. The proof involves showing that both sets are contained within each other, utilizing group theory concepts such as the order of elements in a cyclic group.

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Let ζp be e2πi/p. For an integer i, such that p does not divide i, prove Q(ζp) = Q(ζip ).

I think this has something to do with both exponents of ζp (1 and i) being coprime to p, but I am not sure at all how to show the equality. If anyone could please help with an explanation, that would be great. Thank you.
 
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mathjam0990 said:
Let ζp be e2πi/p. For an integer i, such that p does not divide i, prove Q(ζp) = Q(ζip ).

I think this has something to do with both exponents of ζp (1 and i) being coprime to p, but I am not sure at all how to show the equality. If anyone could please help with an explanation, that would be great. Thank you.
Some caution is needed here, because $i$ is doing double duty, as an exponent and as the square root of $-1$. Just don't be tempted to write $\zeta_p^i$ as $(e^{2\pi i/p})^i.$

It should be clear that $\mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p^i) \subseteq \mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p)$ (because $\zeta_p^i \in \mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p)$). To prove the reverse inclusion you need to show that $\zeta_p \in \mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p^i)$. This will follow if you can show that $\zeta_p$ is a power of $\zeta_p^i$. That is where $i$ and $p$ being coprime will come in.
 
Opalg said:
To prove the reverse inclusion you need to show that $\zeta_p \in \mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p^i)$. This will follow if you can show that $\zeta_p$ is a power of $\zeta_p^i$. That is where $i$ and $p$ being coprime will come in.

Thank you for your response. I apologize, I should have mentioned that I knew the proof would be to show each is contained in the other. But I have no clue how to show $\zeta_p \in \mathbb{Q}(\zeta_p^i)$. Could you please explain how I would do that and I can respond via "reply with quote" if I happen to get lost? Thank you.
 
The $p$-th roots of unity form a cyclic group of order $p$, under complex multiplication. The elements are, from your definition of $\zeta_p$:

$\{(\zeta_p)^k: k = 0,1,2,\dots,p-1\}$ (so $\zeta_p$ is a generator). The link between "$p$-th roots of unity" and an abstract cyclic group of order $p$ (or to be more specific: $\Bbb Z/p\Bbb Z$) is provided by the complex exponential (which lies beneath DeMoivre's formula, as well).

A (semi-) elementary result of group theory is that for a cyclic group $\langle a\rangle$, of order $n$, the order of $a^k$ is:

$\dfrac{n}{\gcd(k,n)}$

In particular, for $n = p$, if $\gcd(k,p) = 1$, then $a^k$ has order $p$ (I am using $k$ instead of your $i$ for the very reasons Opalg outlined in his first post).
 
A possibly more simple-minded approach is to say that we want to find $r$ such that $(\zeta_p^k)^r = \zeta_p$. But $\zeta_p^k$ is a $p$th root of unity, so $(\zeta_p^p)^s = 1$ (for any integer $s$).

Therefore it would be good to find integers $r,s$ such that $kr = ps+1$, because then $(\zeta_p^k)^r = (\zeta_p^p)^s(\zeta_p)^1 = \zeta_p$. That ought to point you towards ideas connected with Euclid's algorithm.
 

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