Prove the following dilogarithmic value

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The discussion revolves around proving the value of the dilogarithm function at a specific point, specifically $\text{Li}_{2}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)$. Participants explore functional equations related to the dilogarithm and seek proofs for these equations, engaging in technical reasoning and derivations.

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  • One participant states that $\text{Li}_{2}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right) = \frac{\pi^2}{12} - \frac{1}{2} \log^2 (2)$.
  • Another participant presents a functional equation: $\text{Li}_2(x)+\text{Li}_{2}(1-x) = \frac{\pi^2}{6}- \ln(x)\cdot \ln(1-x)$ and asks for a proof of this equation.
  • A later reply reiterates the functional equation and suggests differentiating it to derive results, expressing dissatisfaction with the current proofs.
  • Some participants express differing views on the satisfaction of the derivation provided by another participant, with one finding it logical while another remains unsatisfied.
  • One participant mentions a link to a proof that appears to be deleted, leading to further discussion about locating the proof.
  • A participant provides a detailed derivation involving integration by parts and the evaluation of constants, ultimately restating the functional equation.

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Participants express differing opinions on the sufficiency of the proofs provided, with some finding them satisfactory and others not. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the proofs or the best approach to the problem.

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Some participants reference a deleted post that may have contained additional information or proofs, indicating potential gaps in the discussion. The derivations presented depend on specific mathematical techniques and assumptions that are not universally accepted or agreed upon.

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$$\text{Li}_{2}\left(\frac{1}{2}\right) = \frac{\pi^2}{12} - \frac{1}{2} \log^2 (2) $$
 
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I found the following functional equation :

$$\text{Li}_2(x)+\text{Li}_{2}(1-x) = \frac{\pi^2}{6}- \ln(x)\cdot \ln(1-x) $$

Substituting x = 1/2 gives us the result , does anybody know how to prove this functional equation ?
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
I found the following functional equation :

$$\text{Li}_2(x)+\text{Li}_{2}(1-x) = \frac{\pi^2}{6}- \ln(x)\cdot \ln(1-x) $$

Substituting x = 1/2 gives us the result , does anybody know how to prove this functional equation ?

if we let $$\text { Li }_2{(x)}=- \int ^ { x}_0\frac {\log (1- u ) } {u} \, du$$

Then if we differentiated the functional equation we get the result . But that still unsatisfactory.(Tauri)
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
But that still unsatisfactory

I don't see what's unsatisfactory to you. Galactus' derivation is perfectly logical and satisfactory as it occurs to me. If you want another proof, then you might be interested in a proof of Abel's identity which is a further generalization of the reflection formula.
 
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mathbalarka said:
I don't see what's unsatisfactory to you. Galactus' derivation is perfectly logical and satisfactory as it occurs to me. If you want another proof, then you might be interested in a proof of Abel's identity which is a further generalization of the reflection formula.

Actually it is , but I posted this before seeing the derivation. Here is a link
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
Actually it is , but I posted this before seeing the derivation...

The link given above seems to be to a post that was deleted by the OP.
 
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MarkFL said:
The link given above seem to be to a post that was deleted by the OP.

scroll down it is not the first post .
 
You can set your link to take you to to the post you mean...

Is this it?

clickety-click
 
Ok , here is the full proof

$$\text{Li}_{2}(x) =-\int^{x}_0 \frac{\log (1-u)}{u}\,du$$

$$\frac{d}{dx} \left(\text{Li}_{2}(x)\right) =-\frac{\log (1-x)}{x}$$

Integrating by parts

$$\text{Li}_{2}(x) = -\log(1-x) \log(x) +\int^{1-x}_0 \frac{\log(1-u)}{u}du+ C$$

$$\text{Li}_{2}(x) = -\log(1-x) \log(x) - \text{Li}_2 (1-x) +C$$

Letting $x$ approaches 0 we get :

$$C=\text{Li}_2 (1)= \zeta(2) = \frac{\pi^2}{6}$$

$$\text{Li}_{2}(x) + \text{Li}_2 (1-x) = \frac{\pi^2}{6}-\log(1-x) \log(x) $$
 

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