Proving or Disproving Null Space Containment in F(n) for A and A^2

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The discussion revolves around proving or disproving the containment of the null space of a matrix \( A \) within the null space of its square \( A^2 \). The subject area includes linear algebra concepts such as null spaces, ranks, and dimensions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of null spaces and the implications of matrix multiplication. There are attempts to establish a logical connection between the null spaces of \( A \) and \( A^2 \). Some participants question whether the definitions can be directly applied to prove the statement.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the proof structure, with some participants providing insights on how to approach the proof. However, there is no explicit consensus on the proof's final form or completeness.

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Participants note the importance of using definitions correctly and suggest improvements in the exposition of the proof. There is also a reminder about using the forum's LaTeX feature for mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement


given
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I am required to proove or disprove:[/B]
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Homework Equations


rank
dim
null space

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I tried to base my answer based on the fact that null A and null A^2 is Contained in F (n)
and
dim N(A)+rank(A)=N
same goes for A^2.
 

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Why don't you just use the definition?

##x \in Null(A) \implies Ax = 0 ##

If the statement is true, you have to prove that ##A^2 x = 0##. Can you show that?
 
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Math_QED said:
Why don't you just use the definition?

##x \in Null(A) \implies Ax = 0 ##

If the statement is true, you have to prove that ##A^2 x = 0##. Can you show that?
thank you! you mean like so:
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Yes, the idea is certainly correct. The proof exposition can be better though. Here is how I would write it:

We want to prove that ##Null(A) \subseteq Null(A^2)##, so let's take an arbitrary element ##x \in Null(A)##. By definition, this means that ##Ax = 0##. Since ##A^2x = (AA)x = A(Ax) = A0 = 0## (here we used associativity of matrix multiplication/function composition), it follows that ##x \in Null(A^2)##, and we are done.
 
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