Proving the limit (delta epsilon)

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The discussion focuses on proving the limit of the function as x approaches 1 using the epsilon-delta definition. The initial approach involves manipulating the expression to establish bounds, specifically focusing on how to control the term |(2x + 1)/(3(x^2 + x + 4))|. A suggested method includes assuming |x - 1| < 1 to simplify the bounds on x and subsequently derive a relationship between |x - 1| and epsilon. The conclusion emphasizes the need to choose delta as the minimum of 1 and a derived expression based on epsilon to ensure the limit condition is satisfied. The conversation also touches on the appropriateness of selecting values less than the limit point, which is confirmed as a valid strategy.
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Homework Statement



Prove the follow statements directly using the formal \epsilon , \delta definition.

\lim_{x\rightarrow 1} \frac{x + 3}{x^2 + x + 4} = \frac{2}{3}




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The Attempt at a Solution



0 &lt; |x - 1| &lt; \delta \rightarrow 0 &lt; |\frac{x + 3}{x^2 + x + 4} - \frac{2}{3}| &lt; \epsilon

Not sure what to do now.

0 < | 3(x+3) - 2(x2 + x + 4) / 3(x2+x+4) | < e
0 < | -2x2 + x + 1 / 3(x2+x+4) | < e
0 < | (-2x - 1)(x - 1) / 3(x2+x+4) | < e

Now I can control (x - 1), but how do I do this?
 
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Should I have posted this in the "Calculus and Beyond" section? :/
 
zeion said:

Homework Statement



Prove the follow statements directly using the formal \epsilon , \delta definition.

\lim_{x\rightarrow 1} \frac{x + 3}{x^2 + x + 4} = \frac{2}{3}




Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



0 &lt; |x - 1| &lt; \delta \rightarrow 0 &lt; |\frac{x + 3}{x^2 + x + 4} - \frac{2}{3}| &lt; \epsilon

Not sure what to do now.

0 < | 3(x+3) - 2(x2 + x + 4) / 3(x2+x+4) | < e
0 < | -2x2 + x + 1 / 3(x2+x+4) | < e
0 < | (-2x - 1)(x - 1) / 3(x2+x+4) | < e

Now I can control (x - 1), but how do I do this?
Now you need to get a bound on |(2x+1)/3(x^2+ x+ 4)|

For example, you can start by assuming that |x-1|< 1 so that 0< x< 2. Then 0< 2x< 4 and 1< 2x+1< 5. Also 0< x2< 4 so 0< x2+ x< 6, 4< x2+ x+ 4< 10 and 12< 3(x2+ x+ 4)< 30. That tells you that 1/30< 1/3(x2+ x+ 4)< 1/12 and so that 1/30< (2x+1)/3(x2+ x+ 4)< 5/12.

Now you know that |x-1|/30< (2x-1)|x-1|/3(x2+ x+ 4)< 5|x-1|/12

Since you want to make sure that is less than \epsilon, you want 5|x-1|/12&lt;\epsilon so you need |x-1|&lt; 12\epsilon/5. To make certain that |x-1|< 1 so all of that is true, take \delta to be the smaller of 1 and 12\epsilon/5|.
 
HallsofIvy said:
For example, you can start by assuming that |x-1|< 1

I've been told that I should only pick values that are less than whatever x is approaching (ie. <1 in this case), is this true?
 
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