Proving the Number of Subgroups of Order 6 in S4

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The discussion revolves around identifying and proving the number of subgroups of order 6 within the permutation group S4. Participants explore the properties of subgroups and the implications of group order in the context of group theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of having elements of both order 2 and order 3 in a subgroup of order 6, referencing Cauchy's theorem. They explore the implications of choosing different cycles and the generation of subgroups.

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There is an active exploration of the subgroup structure, with some participants suggesting that there are four distinct subgroups of order 6 based on their reasoning about cycle choices. Others are questioning the assumptions regarding subgroup composition and the uniqueness of certain elements.

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Participants note that the subgroup must not contain products of disjoint 2-cycles, as this would lead to generating a larger group than intended. The discussion also highlights the constraints imposed by group orders and the application of group theory theorems.

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My question:
I was asked to give a subgroup of order 6 of the permutation group S4. That part is not so difficult, for example S3 has order 6 and is a subgroup of S4. But now I have to show how many subgroups of order 6 are in S4. Intuitively thinking, there are four of them, each of them leaving 1, 2, 3 or 4 fixed. But how can you prove this?
 
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A subgroup of order 6 must contain an element of order 3 and an element of order 2. That means it contains a 3 cycle and a 2 cycle or a product of two disjoint 2 cycles. Can you show it's a 2 cycle? Let's pick the 3 cycle to be (1,2,3) (how many other choices are there that lead to different order 3 subgroups?). Now you need to add a 2 cycle. If you add a 2 cycle chosen from the elements 1, 2 and 3, like (1,2), you generate S3. If you add an element like (1,4) can you show you get all of S4? Do you see how this proves your conclusion about the 4 different S3's?
 
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Hmm, why does the subgroup need to have an element of order 2 and an element of order 3? Why not only elements of order 2 or 3?
 
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Hmm, why does the subgroup need to have an element of order 2 and an element of order 3? Why not only elements of order 2 or 3?

Cauchy's theorem says so. 2 and 3 are prime divisors of 6.
 
Ah, I see! It cannot be a product of two disjoint 2-cycles because then you again generate S4. And there are four choices of 3-cycles, which gives you 4 subgroups. Is this correct? Thanks a lot :)
 
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3029298 said:
Ah, I see! It cannot be a product of two disjoint 2-cycles because then you again generate S4. And there are four choices of 3-cycles, which gives you 4 subgroups. Is this correct? Thanks a lot :)

Right. There are 4 subgroups of order 3. You also have to show there is only one group of order 6 that contains each one.
 
Is there an easier way to show that there are no products of disjoint 2-cycles in the subgroup, other than writing all te products with all 3-cycles? (and thus showing that you generate more than 6 elements)
 
Sure, you don't have to do ALL of them. Your order 3 subgroups are all conjugate. You really just have to show that one of them is contained in a unique order 6 subgroup, say the one generated by (123). The only 'interesting' 2 cycle to multiply by is (14) (the others will just generate an S3). (123)(14)=(1423). That's not good. It has order 4. No subgroup of order 6 can contain a subgroup of order 4. Stop there. Stuff like that.
 

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