Proving the Statement: (1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0

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The problem involves proving that the expression \((1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0\) holds true for \(u=exp(\frac{2\pi i}{3})\). The context is rooted in complex numbers and their properties.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the expression and explore the nature of \(u\) and its powers. There are attempts to simplify the expression and questions about the reality of the resulting values. Some participants suggest examining the discriminant and the nature of complex numbers involved.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the expression. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of \(u\) and its relationship to real and imaginary components. There is no explicit consensus yet on the proof.

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Participants are considering the implications of \(u\) being a complex number and its modulus being 1. There are discussions about the realness of the expression and the algebraic manipulations involved.

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Homework Statement


Prove that ##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0##
where ##u=exp(\frac{2\pi i}{3})##


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The Attempt at a Solution


##u^4=u## so
##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2=3u^2+3u+2>0##
is there any way from here to get ##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0##?
 
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Note that u^2=u^* and so u^2+u is real
 
Maybe this ##3u^2+3u+2>0## because discriminant is complex? Another way?
 
Hi LagrangeEuler! :smile:

Hint: u3 - 1 = 0 and u - 1 ≠ 0, sooo … ? :wink:

(hmm … is it true?)
 
In fact, do you have any reason to think that (1+ u^2)^2+ (1+ u)^2 is even a real number?

Here is my very simple-minded, not at all sophisticated look at it:

u= e^{2\pi i/3}= -1- i\sqrt{3}/2
u^2= \frac{1}{4}+ i\sqrt{3}
1+ u^2= \frac{5}{4}+ i\sqrt{3}
(1+ u^2)^2= -\frac{13}{16}+ 5i\sqrt{3}/2
While 1+ u is -i\sqrt{3}/2 so (1+ u)^2 is real and the sum has non-zero imaginary part.
 
You have ##3u^2+3u+2## and it has been noted that ##u^2 = \bar u## so you have ##3u+3\bar u + 2 = 3(u + \bar u)+2 = 3\cdot 2\mathcal{Re} (u) + 2##, which is easy enough to calculate.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
In fact, do you have any reason to think that (1+ u^2)^2+ (1+ u)^2 is even a real number?

Here is my very simple-minded, not at all sophisticated look at it:

u= e^{2\pi i/3}= -1- i\sqrt{3}/2

This is incorrect since |u|=1 it should be u= -1/2- i\sqrt{3}/2 from which the algebra follows
 

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