Proving the Statement: (1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0

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The discussion revolves around proving that the expression (1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2 is greater than zero for u=exp(2πi/3). Participants explore the relationship between u and its properties, noting that u^4=u and that u^2 is the complex conjugate of u. They derive that the expression simplifies to 3u^2+3u+2 and discuss the implications of its discriminant being complex. The conversation highlights the calculation of real and imaginary parts of the expression, ultimately questioning whether the sum is a real number. The conclusion emphasizes the need for careful algebraic manipulation to validate the inequality.
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Homework Statement


Prove that ##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0##
where ##u=exp(\frac{2\pi i}{3})##


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The Attempt at a Solution


##u^4=u## so
##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2=3u^2+3u+2>0##
is there any way from here to get ##(1+u^2)^2+(1+u)^2>0##?
 
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Note that u^2=u^* and so u^2+u is real
 
Maybe this ##3u^2+3u+2>0## because discriminant is complex? Another way?
 
Hi LagrangeEuler! :smile:

Hint: u3 - 1 = 0 and u - 1 ≠ 0, sooo … ? :wink:

(hmm … is it true?)
 
In fact, do you have any reason to think that (1+ u^2)^2+ (1+ u)^2 is even a real number?

Here is my very simple-minded, not at all sophisticated look at it:

u= e^{2\pi i/3}= -1- i\sqrt{3}/2
u^2= \frac{1}{4}+ i\sqrt{3}
1+ u^2= \frac{5}{4}+ i\sqrt{3}
(1+ u^2)^2= -\frac{13}{16}+ 5i\sqrt{3}/2
While 1+ u is -i\sqrt{3}/2 so (1+ u)^2 is real and the sum has non-zero imaginary part.
 
You have ##3u^2+3u+2## and it has been noted that ##u^2 = \bar u## so you have ##3u+3\bar u + 2 = 3(u + \bar u)+2 = 3\cdot 2\mathcal{Re} (u) + 2##, which is easy enough to calculate.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
In fact, do you have any reason to think that (1+ u^2)^2+ (1+ u)^2 is even a real number?

Here is my very simple-minded, not at all sophisticated look at it:

u= e^{2\pi i/3}= -1- i\sqrt{3}/2

This is incorrect since |u|=1 it should be u= -1/2- i\sqrt{3}/2 from which the algebra follows
 

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