Pulley Acceleration and Tension Relations

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To determine the acceleration and tension in a system with masses m1 = 25kg, m2 = 1kg, and m3 = 3kg, the equations of motion for each mass must be established. The first mass experiences upward acceleration, while the second and third masses experience downward acceleration. It is crucial to relate the tensions T1 and T2, considering the ideal pulley assumption, which indicates that the tension remains constant throughout the rope. By establishing these relationships and solving the resulting algebraic equations, the values for acceleration and tension can be calculated. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the dynamics of the system to find the unknowns effectively.
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Determine bodies' acceleration if their masses are the following: m1 = 25kg, m2 = 1kg, m3 = 3kg and the Tension of the ropes. Friction is neglected, as well as the mass of the pulley. It is considered that the ropes are perfect.

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m1 = 25kg;
m2=1kg;
m3=3kg;
___________
a=?
T1=?
T2=?
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For the first object we have:
T1-G1= m1*a; (the acceleration is oriented upwards)
a = (T1-G1)/m1;
For next ones, I guess:
The acceleration here goes downwards
T2-G2-G3 = -(m2+m3)*a;
a = (T2-G2 - G3) / -(m2 + m3)

Are the accelerations the same?
How would i find it?
 

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inv4lid said:
Are the accelerations the same?
What would happen if the accelerations were not the same?
You may safely assume that this is an ideal pulley, i.e. it changes the direction of the tension but not its magnitude. This will simplify your work.
 
kuruman said:
What would happen if the accelerations were not the same?
You may safely assume that this is an ideal pulley, i.e. it changes the direction of the tension but not its magnitude. This will simplify your work.
I need to get some numbers. How would i get the tension/acceleration? There is too much unknown data.
(i guess we can't get any of T)
 
inv4lid said:
I need to get some numbers. How would i get the tension/acceleration? There is too much unknown data.
(i guess we can't get any of T)
I think kuruman is trying to get you to relate ##T_{1}## to ##T_{2}##. If the pulley is ideal (frictionless and massless) what is the relation? Once you have the relation, you can solve the algebraic system.
 
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