Pulleys and blocks - find acceleration

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of various masses connected by pulleys, specifically a 16kg mass, a 4kg mass, a 1kg mass, and a 7/3kg mass. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying Newton's second law (Fnet = ma) and establishing a constraint equation for the system. Confusion arises regarding the assumption of a single acceleration for all blocks, with clarification that each mass can have its own acceleration, denoted for convenience. The conversation includes attempts to derive equations for tension and acceleration, with participants troubleshooting their calculations. Ultimately, the goal is to accurately determine the acceleration of each block in the pulley system.
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1. A pulley A on the end of a spring balance. On 1 end is a 16kg mass. On the other is pulley B. On one end of pulley B is a mass of 4kg. On the other end is pulley C. On one end of pulley C is a 1kg mass. On the other end is a 7/3kg mass. All pulleys are massless and frictionless. Find accn. of each block



2. Homework Equations
1.Too many pulleys= big confusion! (A very relevant equation here!) Just kidding.

Fnet = ma




3. I got the constraint equation as 4a(16) + 2a(4) + a(1) + a(7/3) = 0(no.s in bracket indicate accn. of block of that mass.

Now what?
 
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Start with the pulley C. Find the net force on it and the accns of the blocks hanging from it by the usual method. I do hope you know that. Then work your way up, one by one.

In your eqns, you have assumed a single accn 'a'? Why?
 
Shooting star said:
Start with the pulley C. Find the net force on it and the accns of the blocks hanging from it by the usual method. I do hope you know that. Then work your way up, one by one.

In your eqns, you have assumed a single accn 'a'? Why?


Single accn. a? Whats that supposed to mean? I've assigned each of them a separate accn but just named them a(16) for convenience. For example I know a(16) refers to the accn of the block of 16kg.
 
Ok. Now I've modified my accn.s. Here goes what I've done. I know its wrong.

Starting from the inside,
T3-10=a1-a4+a16
70/3-T3=7/3(-a1-a4-a16)

==> 20=5a16-5a4-2a1

Next,
40-T2=4(a16-a4)
T2-100/3=10/3(a16+a4)

==> 10=11a16-a4

And finally,
160-T1=16*a16
T1-220/3=22/3*a16

==> a16=26/7 m/s/s which is wrong!
 

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anirudh215 said:
Single accn. a? Whats that supposed to mean? I've assigned each of them a separate accn but just named them a(16) for convenience. For example I know a(16) refers to the accn of the block of 16kg.

It looked like a*16, that's why I asked the Q. It's all right.
 
check my answer tho. Why am I getting the wrong one?
 
T3-10=a1-a4+a16
70/3-T3=7/3(-a1-a4-a16)

How did you wright the above equations? Why the signs of a1 and a16 are changed in the second equation?
If T1, T2 and T3 are the tensions in the strings tied to the masses 1kg, 4 kg and 16 kg, then a(1) = (T1 - 10)/1 = (70/3 - T1)/7/3. Find T1
a(4) = (40 - T2)/4 = (T2 - 2T1)/(10/3). Find T2
and a(16) = (160 - T3)/16 = (T3 - 2T2)/22/3. Find T3.
 
Thank you very much. I'm done.
 
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