Pure rolling with zero friction

In summary: CoM of the sphere is given velocity v and if it is left on a rough surface then at first kinetic friction acts on the bottom of the sphere but when ##v## becomes equal to ##R\omega## (i.e when pure rolling starts) after that static friction acts on it. And static friction can change its value according to conditions. So it will be zero because no external force acts on it other than friction acts on it. But in the case of an incline, static friction can't be zero because a component of ##mgsin\theta## acts as you have mentioned.
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when a sphere starts moving with initial velocity ##v_0## and zero angular velocity in a plane surface having friction, then first it will start rotating till it starts pure rolling. that is, its velocity of centre of mass will decrease due to backward friction and angular velocity will increase till ##v_{com} = R\omega##. But after it starts pure rolling, will friction become zero?
but if friction is zero then will the ball keep tolling and never stop?
com is Centre Of Mass
 
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I think that the friction acting on it will be 0 from the moment it starts pure rolling. In case of pure rolling static friction acts on the object. It can change its value according to condition.

The reason it stops it that if we don't consider ideal condition then there will be slight deformation of the surface at the bottom of the sphere. And the normal force shifts to the right. So torque due to ##N## decelerates the angular velocity. So it stops after some times.
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If an object isn't accelerating the net force acting on it must be zero.
 
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CWatters said:
If an object isn't accelerating the net force acting on it must be zero.
but In case of non uniform pure rolling where ##a=R\alpha## acceleration is non zero.
 
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Satvik Pandey said:
I think that the friction acting on it will be 0 from the moment it starts pure rolling. In case of pure rolling static friction acts on the object. It can change its value according to condition.
If you have the same sphere rolling in an inclined plane starting with ##v_0## and zero angular velocity, then initially, friction will be backward and will make the sphere start pure rolling. But then friction can't be zero after it starts pure rolling right? Because we have an ##mgsin\theta## acting at centre of mass and friction has to act in opposite direction to make the acceleration of bottom most point zero.
Also after it starts pure rolling, will the acceleration of centre of mass become zero?
What do you mean by non uniform pure rolling?
 
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AdityaDev said:
If you have the same sphere rolling in an inclined plane starting with ##v_0## and zero angular velocity, then initially, friction will be backward and will make the sphere start pure rolling. But then friction can't be zero after it starts pure rolling right? Because we have an ##mgsin\theta## acting at centre of mass and friction has to act in opposite direction to make the acceleration of bottom most point zero.
Also after it starts pure rolling, will the acceleration of centre of mass become zero?
What do you mean by non uniform pure rolling?

Initially when the CoM of the sphere is given velocity v and if it is left on a rough surface then at first kinetic friction acts on the bottom of the sphere but when ##v## becomes equal to ##R\omega## (i.e when pure rolling starts) after that static friction acts on it. And static friction can change its value according to conditions. So it will be zero because no external force acts on it other than friction acts on it. In case of incline it will not be zero because a component of ##mgsin\theta## acts as you have mentioned.
 
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Why don't you just solve the original problem already for the case if ideal kinetic friction, using force and moment balances, and see what the answer comes out to be, rather than continuing to speculate.

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1. What is pure rolling with zero friction?

Pure rolling with zero friction is a type of motion where a body or object rolls without any sliding or slipping due to the absence of frictional forces. This type of motion occurs when the body's center of mass moves at a constant velocity and the rotational motion is also constant.

2. How does pure rolling with zero friction differ from regular rolling?

In regular rolling, frictional forces are present and can cause slipping or sliding of the body. However, in pure rolling with zero friction, there are no frictional forces acting on the body, so the motion is smooth and constant without any slipping or sliding.

3. What are the applications of pure rolling with zero friction?

Pure rolling with zero friction has many practical applications, such as in the design of wheels and bearings for vehicles, machinery, and other rotating parts. It also plays a crucial role in sports, such as bowling, where a ball is rolled without any slipping or sliding.

4. Is pure rolling with zero friction possible in real life?

In theory, pure rolling with zero friction is possible, but in reality, it is challenging to achieve due to the presence of other external forces and imperfections in the surfaces of the rolling body and the surface it is rolling on. However, engineers and scientists strive to minimize friction and achieve as close to pure rolling as possible in various applications.

5. How does pure rolling with zero friction affect the energy of the rolling body?

Pure rolling with zero friction does not dissipate any energy due to friction, so the energy of the rolling body remains constant. This means that the body can keep rolling indefinitely without any input of external energy, making it an efficient form of motion for certain applications.

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