Q on Jackson. Lorentz force modification for radiation?

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The discussion centers on the Lorentz force equations from Jackson's textbook, which describe the motion of charged particles in external fields while neglecting radiation effects. Participants express surprise at this omission and seek clarification on how to modify the equations to account for radiation. The Abraham-Lorentz force is identified as the relevant modification, which addresses radiation damping. The conversation highlights the challenge of rigorously incorporating a charged particle's interaction with its own electromagnetic field. The participants appreciate the reference to the Abraham-Lorentz force and its location in Jackson's text for further exploration.
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Reading Jackson this morning, where it was stated that the Lorentz force equations:

<br /> \frac{dU^\alpha}{d\tau} = \frac{e}{mc} F^{\alpha\beta} U_\beta<br />

are sufficient to describe the motion of a charged particle in an external field, neglecting the effects of radiation.

That radiation qualifer suprised me. What is the modification of the Lorentz force equation (or Lagrangian) that correctly models radiation too?
 
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Isn't it given in Jackson book later on?
 
Bob_for_short said:
Isn't it given in Jackson book later on?

If it is I wouldn't know yet. The qualification is made in passing, and there's no hint of what to look for. Does the corrected force law have a name that I could look for in the index?
 
Jackson (or for that matter any other textbook) does not give a rigorous derivation; this was one of big problems of classical electromagnetism: How to take into account the interaction of a point charge with its ow electromagnetic field in a rigorous way?

The solution to this problem is given here:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0905.2391
 
Peeter said:
If it is I wouldn't know yet. The qualification is made in passing, and there's no hint of what to look for. Does the corrected force law have a name that I could look for in the index?

Yes, there is a name, it is the Abraham-Lorentz force. Try Wikipedia.
 
In my old 2nd edition of Jackson, the Abraham-Lorentz force is in chapter 17 which discusses radiation damping.

Jackson said:
The question now arises as to how to include the reactive effects of radiation in the equations of motion for a charged particle. [...]
 
thanks for the paper and the name.
 
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