Quadratics using Pascal's triangle

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The discussion focuses on using Pascal's Triangle to simplify a quadratic expression, where the main challenge lies in transitioning between specific lines of the equation. The user struggles to reduce the expression further after reaching a certain point, despite applying the quadratic formula, which yields an approximate answer of 748.52 instead of the expected 752. There is a clarification regarding the distinction between an equation and an expression, emphasizing that the problem presented lacks an equality symbol. The conversation highlights common misunderstandings in mathematical terminology and the utility of Pascal's Triangle in simplifying quadratic forms. Overall, the thread illustrates the complexities involved in manipulating quadratic expressions and the importance of clear mathematical definitions.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Pascal's Triangle is useful is this one.

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The difficulty I'm having is in going between lines 2 and 3 which I've marked with a little red dot.

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The closest I get to simplifying it is = a4 + B4 + 4aB(a2+B2) + 6a2B2 . From there I can't figure out the way in which to reduce it further.

P.S I also used the quadratic formula to solve this one (the one with the b2 - 4ac) and my answer came to 748.52 but not quite 752. Why does the quadratic formula not work here?

Thank you for your help,
Ben
 

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##\alpha^4 + \beta^4 + 4\alpha^3\beta + 6\alpha^2\beta^2 + 4\alpha \beta^3 = \alpha^4 + \beta^4 + 4\alpha^3\beta + \color{red}{8}\alpha^2\beta^2 + 4\alpha \beta^3 - \color{blue}{2\alpha^2 \beta^2} = \alpha^4 + \beta^4 + 4\alpha\beta(\alpha^2 + 2\alpha\beta + \beta^2) - {2\alpha^2 \beta^2}##

Now use ##a^2 + 2ab + b^2 = (a+b)^2##
 
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Amazing! Thank you so much Buffu :)
 
:smile:
 
I have a minor gripe with the author of this problem.
A quadratic equation with roots ##\alpha## and ##\beta## is ##(x - \alpha)(x - \beta)##, and so ...
What is shown is not an equation, since the symbol = is not present.

Again, my gripe is with the author, not the person who started this thread.
 
Number of people confusing between expression and equation is surprisingly high.
 
I tried to combine those 2 formulas but it didn't work. I tried using another case where there are 2 red balls and 2 blue balls only so when combining the formula I got ##\frac{(4-1)!}{2!2!}=\frac{3}{2}## which does not make sense. Is there any formula to calculate cyclic permutation of identical objects or I have to do it by listing all the possibilities? Thanks
Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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