Quantum Communication: Entanglement, Interference & FTL

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of entangling two particles and then separating them to observe interference in one particle affecting the other, similar to a faster-than-light quantum communication system. However, it is concluded that this is not possible due to the random nature of the particles' behavior and the inability to use "spooky action at a distance" for communication.
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is it possible to entangle two particles and then separate them buy a large distance, and then interfere with one of the particles and observe this in the other, like a quantum communication system that is faster than light?
 
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No, it is not.
 
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ed777 said:
is it possible to entangle two particles and then separate them buy a large distance, and then interfere with one of the particles and observe this in the other, like a quantum communication system that is faster than light?
Suppose you have two stone-throwers sitting back-to-back throwing stones at two oppositely positioned targets. Let's call the targets A and B. Now let's assume that the stone-throwers both repeatedly throw stones simultanuously at the targets, and let's suppose they have a chance of exactly 50 percent to hit the target, and 50 percent to miss it. Suppose behind each target stands an observer, checking for each stone if it hits or misses. Let's call them Alice and Bob.

What we can firstly conclude is that Alice and Bob both observe 50 percent of the stones hitting their observed target, and 50 percent missing it.

Now suppose the stone-throwers simultanuously hit or miss their targets. There would still be a 50/50 chance of hitting or missing each target, but if one was hit, the other would also be hit, and similarly for misses. This would be a measureble effect if Alice and Bob would compare their notes! They would measure a 100 percent match between hits and likewise between misses.

Now suppose that in midflight of the stones, Bob would change something to target B that would influence whether it would be hit or missed while keeping the probability ratio of being hit 50/50. Now Alice and Bob still would observe 50 percent hits and 50 percent misses. However, if they would compare their notes, they would notice that there wouldn't be a 100 percent match between hits on one side and misses on the other. Sometimes there would be a miss where the other got a hit.

So, in the latter case, Alice and Bob would still see a 50/50 ratio hits/misses on their own target. Bob didn't change Alice's ratio. The difference between the targets only became apparent when Alice and Bob compared notes.

Note: To be more precise, all we know, is that Alice's and Bob's observations stay the same, and that the hit/miss correlation between them may vary; whether Bob's change in his target really does not at all affect Alice's results, we cannot know. After all, we can't know what 'would have happened' would Bob have decided otherwise. In any case, any 'influence' Bob would pose on Alice would perfectly blend into Alice's results, since both exhibit a purely random 50/50 ratio. :wink:
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
No, it is not.
what about spooky action at a distance?
 
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ed777 said:
what about spooky action at a distance?
We could have another long thread about whether spooky action at a distance even exists - we already have several of these - but even if it does it cannot be used for communication.

There are many many threads here explaining why.
 
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1. What is quantum communication?

Quantum communication is a method of transmitting information using the principles of quantum mechanics. It involves the manipulation and transmission of quantum states, such as entangled particles, to securely send information between two parties.

2. What is entanglement in quantum communication?

Entanglement is a phenomenon in quantum mechanics where two or more particles become intrinsically linked, so that the state of one particle affects the state of the other(s) regardless of distance. This allows for the secure transmission of information as any interference or measurement of the particles will be immediately apparent to the parties involved.

3. How does interference play a role in quantum communication?

Interference is a key component of quantum communication as it allows for the manipulation and measurement of entangled particles. By interfering with one of the entangled particles, the state of the other particle(s) can be determined, allowing for the transmission of information between the parties.

4. Can quantum communication allow for faster-than-light (FTL) communication?

No, quantum communication does not allow for FTL communication. While the effects of entanglement may appear to be instantaneous, no information is actually transmitted faster than the speed of light. Additionally, the transmission of information through quantum communication is limited by the speed of the physical medium being used, such as fiber optic cables.

5. What are some potential applications of quantum communication?

Quantum communication has the potential to revolutionize fields such as cryptography and secure communication, as well as improve the speed and efficiency of information processing. It may also have applications in quantum computing and quantum teleportation.

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