Quantum Mechanics Spin Expectation Value

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of the spin operator Sχ for a quantum system described by a time-dependent state. The context is within quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on spin-1/2 systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the normalization of the state and the implications of the spin operators. Questions arise about the definitions and properties of the states |z+> and |z->, as well as the operator Sx and its eigenvalues.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of the spin operator Sx and its relationship to the eigenstates. Some participants suggest reading relevant textbook material to clarify concepts, while others express uncertainty about the implications of the operator's properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding the states |z+> and |z->, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for normalization in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of assumptions and interpretations regarding the spin operators and their application.

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Homework Statement


What is the expectation valueof the Sχ for a system in the time-dependent state
|Ψ> = 2e-2iωt |z+> -ieiωt |z->




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maybe the state must be normalised first i.e 1/√5 times the initial ψ


The Attempt at a Solution


And then say<ψ|Sχ|ψ> where ψ is normalised now and Sx is equal to what ?? .
Maybe Sx =hbar/2 ψ ? i think in this very last statement i have to be wrong
 
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Who's z+ and z- ? The normalization factor is ok, provided that z+ and z- are normalized.
 
We don't know anything more about z 's ,so this part of problem is solved presumably ,most possibly correct.
 
What do you know about the operator Sx?
 
Maybe it can take half integer values ? I really don't know anything else.
 
Presumably you have a textbook, and it surely covers spin-1/2 systems. Start by reading up on that. Try keeping straight the difference between the operator, its eigenvalues, and its eigenstates. You should be able to calculate what the following equal:
\begin{align*}
\hat{S}_x | \uparrow \rangle = \ ? \\
\hat{S}_x | \downarrow \rangle = \ ?
\end{align*}where the two states are the eigenstates of Sz.
 
the only information i managed to found is that Sx |z+> =hbar/2 |z->

and Sx|z->=hbar/2|z+>

but even if we suppose this is correct there is also the problem how to put these in the expression for the expectation value.
 
well if this is correct i think i know
 
That's correct.
 
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