Quasi-local mass as a measure of the gravitational energy?

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The discussion centers on the concept of quasi-local mass, specifically its role as a measure of gravitational energy in the context of general relativity. Participants highlight the distinction between gravity as a curvature of spacetime rather than a classical force, raising questions about how energy can be defined in this framework. Key references include the arXiv paper (https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.02931) and contributions from notable figures in mathematical physics such as Shing-Tung Yau and Robert Geroch. The conversation emphasizes the need for specific references to ground discussions in established research.

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How can we talk about the gravitational energy without considering it as a force field?
I'm self-studying the mathematical aspects of quasi-local mass, or quasi-local energy (e.g. Hawking energy), and a fundamental question has been lingering in my mind for a long time: why does quasi-local mass provide us with a measure of the gravitational energy? In general relativity, gravitation is seen as a consequence of the curved spacetime instead of a force in classical mechanics. If so, how can we talk about its energy without considering it as a force field? Thank you.
 
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Steve Rogers said:
quasi-local mass, or quasi-local energy
Please give a specific reference for where you are getting this from. Without a specific reference we do not have a valid basis for discussion.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Please give a specific reference for where you are getting this from. Without a specific reference we do not have a valid basis for discussion.
Hello, a quick reference for this topic can be found on arXiv, as follows.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.02931

I guess the term "quasi-local mass" is more familiar to people working on mathematical relativity or mathematical physics, such as Shing-Tung Yau and Robert Geroch.

Thank you for replying.
 
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Steve Rogers said:
a quick reference for this topic can be found on arXiv, as follows.
Thanks for the reference. Can you point out which particular part of it is the basis for your question?

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why does quasi-local mass provide us with a measure of the gravitational energy?
 
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