Question about calculating ratio of Relative Difference

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the ratio of relative difference in the context of delta neutral positions in options trading. Participants are exploring how to allocate a fixed amount of money between call and put options based on their deltas and prices, while addressing discrepancies in their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the square root of the ratio of two values but finds inconsistencies when reversing the values, leading to an overage when splitting a total amount.
  • Another participant questions the rationale behind using the square root of the ratio, suggesting it may not be appropriate for the intended calculations.
  • A participant explains their goal of achieving a delta neutral position by balancing the contributions of call and put options based on their respective deltas and prices.
  • There is a proposal that the ratio of calls to puts should be approximately equal to the ratio of the put delta to the call delta, indicating a potential method for allocation.
  • Participants discuss the need for the total cost of the options to align with the available budget while maintaining delta neutrality.

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Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and methods used, with no consensus reached on the correct approach to determining the allocation of funds between call and put options.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for balancing equations involving the number of contracts and their respective prices, but there are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions in the calculations presented.

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I was hoping someone might be able to help sort out where I am going wrong in my calculation of the ratio of relative difference.

Value1= .0759
Value2= .0544

SqRt(.0759 / .0544) = 1.181195


The above calculation seems to work, but in a situation like below where the values are reversed the calculation is missing something.

SqRt(.0544/ .0759 ) = 0.846600



The reason I say this is if I utilize the ratio to split $5,000 there is an overage

$5,000 / 2 = $2,500
$2,500 * 1.181195 = $2,952.98

&

$5,000 / 2 = $2,500
$2,500 * 0.846600 = $2,116.50

$2,952.98 + $2,116.50 = $5,069.48 ... $69.48 too much



Any idea where I messed things up ?
 
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1.181195 + 0.846600 = 2.027795, not 2.

I am not sure what you intend by using the square root of the ratio. However it doesn't seem to make sense in what you are doing.
 
Haha yea I have something wrong... I just am not quite sure where.

I am trying to calculate a delta neutral position. Most of the time the size of these positions are based on a number of shares someone is trying to hedge and the cost is whatever it ends up being to create the hedge. I am trying to calculate it the other way around, assuming I want to buy $5k worth of calls and puts based on the delta and price of each, how many do I need to purchase to stay delta neutral and as close to $5k as possible.

Basic Delta Neutral Calculation
0.5 (call option delta) - 0.5 (put option delta) = 0 Delta


Assuming I was buying a $5k combination of the following:

Call Contract
Price - $.59 each
Delta - .0759

Put Contract
Price - $.60 each
Delta - .0544

..Contracts are in multiples of 100

My thought process was that if I could determine the relative difference between the 2 delta's I could determine how much of the $5k needed to be allocated to each. But I am missing something it seems. I can get things to balance out with the first set of values, but, when I put in a second set of values like below things didn't balance as effectively.


2nd Set of Values
Call Contract
Price - $.85 each
Delta - .1207

Put Contract
Price - $1.30 each
Delta - .1419

I have attached a copy of my basic worksheet
 

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It looks like you are trying to have no. calls x call delta as close as possible to no. puts x put delta.

Therefore the ratio call/put should be approximately = delta put / delta call.
Your other equation is no. puts x put price + no. calls x call price = money available.
 

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