Question about magnitude positive y direction

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Choosing the positive y direction as vertically downwards and the positive x direction as to the right, the cross product of y and x results in a direction out of the page. The magnitude of this cross product is given by yx sin(φ), where φ is the angle between the vectors. In the context of an infinite wire carrying current in the positive y direction and a point P along the x-axis, the angle φ can be confusing. It is clarified that if x and y are defined as the axes, then φ is indeed 90 degrees. The discussion highlights the importance of consistent definitions for x and y to avoid confusion in calculations.
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Hello everybody.

If I choose the positive y direction to be vertically downwards, and the positive x direction to be to the right, and take the cross product y cross x, then the direction of the resultant is out of the page (if I draw x and y as lines on paper). The magnitude is yx sin(φ), where φ is the angle between them. I do understand that, but it's been put in a context where I can't find φ. An infinite wire carrying current I in the positive y direction generates a field at P, which is a distance a along the x axis. I want to cross y, which is infinite, with x, which is finite but changing. x is the position vector of point P, relative to the infinite wire. I don't know what to use as the angle between them. Is φ=90°? Is sinφ x/(x2+y2)1/2, by Pythagoras theorem and the geometry of the situation, or should that be a y on the numerator? My textbook explains this poorly, and I think it's still more maths than physics, but I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
Thank's a lot!
 
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Both angle and displacement depend on the point on the conductor (and depending on what you want to calculate, you probably want to use an integral), but if you calculate the cross-product, you'll see that those effects cancel.

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