Question about ohms law and non-ohmic behavior.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of ohmic and non-ohmic materials, particularly in relation to Ohm's Law, which states that resistance is the ratio of voltage to current. Participants explore the conditions under which Ohm's Law applies and the implications of varying voltage and current on resistance, especially in non-linear components like semiconductors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that Ohm's Law, defined as R=V/I, does not always hold true, particularly when resistance changes with temperature or voltage.
  • Another participant explains that while the ratio of voltage to current is termed resistance, this ratio can vary depending on the voltage or current applied, particularly in non-ohmic components.
  • A third participant emphasizes that resistance is typically defined for a specific temperature, and ideal resistors maintain a linear relationship between voltage and current under constant conditions.
  • One participant suggests that non-ohmic behavior can be understood as a variation in current density that is not linearly related to the applied electric field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of Ohm's Law under various conditions, particularly regarding non-ohmic behavior and the influence of temperature. There is no consensus on whether Ohm's Law can be considered absolutely true under constant conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that resistance can depend on factors such as temperature and the specific characteristics of materials, particularly in non-linear devices like semiconductors. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying electrical engineering, physics, or materials science, particularly in understanding the nuances of electrical resistance and the behavior of different components under varying conditions.

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I recently learned that ohms law is not always obeyed. I found this surprising because I thought ohms were defined in terms of volt and amperes by the equation R=V/I. I did a little googling and found the following definition...

1.The SI unit of electrical resistance, expressing the resistance in a circuit transmitting a current of one ampere when subjected to a potential difference of one volt.

This clarified things a little in that the definition of an ohm specifies exactly 1 ampere, 1 volt, and 1 ohm. So if I have a wire with one ohm of resistance I know that if I apply 1 volt of potential, 1 ampere of current will flow. If however I apply 10 volts more current will flow, the wire will heat up, and its resistance will increase, so less then 10 amperes will flow.

My question is, if other conditions (such as temperature) are artificially kept constant as voltage and current vary, does ohms law hold more true or absolutely true?

Consider a spark plug. If I try to measure its resistance using ohms law while applying 100,000 volts will I get the same answer as if I ionize the air between the electrodes with another heat source and measure the resistance with 1 volt?
 
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What is meant by the statement is that whilst the ratio of voltage to current is always called the resistance (and measured in ohms), this ratio may vary with voltage or current.

So if we plot a graph of current sgainst voltage we may get a straight line of constant slope = ratio of voltage to current. Such a component is called a resistor.

However many components, particularly those based on semiconductors, display a different current v voltage curve.

A particularly stark example is the tunnel diode which has a negative slope at certain parts of its I-V curve.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_diode
 
Resistance is usually meant "for a specific temperature". An ideal resistor has a linear relation voltage<->current, if you keep its temperature and other conditions constant. Many metals are good approximations of ideal resistors (in a reasonable range), even if their resistance depends on the temperature.
 
May be it will be better to say that non-ohmic behaviour should be thought as variation of current density is not linearly related to electric field applied.
 

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