Question about the 0th law of thermodynamics

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The discussion centers on the 0th law of thermodynamics and its implications for systems A, B, and C in equilibrium. It questions why the equality g(B1,..., Bk) = f(A1,..., An) indicates equilibrium between A and B, given that different pairs of Pc and Vc can yield the same PcVc value. The participants note that while PV is proportional to temperature, this scenario involves general systems rather than ideal gases. The conversation references Kenneth Denbigh's "The Principles of Chemical Equilibrium" for further insights. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the complexity of defining equilibrium beyond idealized conditions.
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assume I have 3 systems a,b and c.
the equilibrium between a and c can be described by the equality PcVc = f(A1,..., An)
and the same for b and c - PcVc = g(B1,...,Bk).
why does the equality g(B1,..., Bk) = f(A1,..., An) describes an equilibrium between A and B?
the 0th law states that if A and B are in equilibrium with c **for the same value of the thermodynamics coordinates of C**
then they are in equilibrium with each other, but I can find different pairs of Pc and Vc that will result in the same value of PcVc.
 
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Isn’t PV proportional to T? So this just describes three systems with the same temperature.
 
I'm not talking about ideal gas but on general systems.
you can take another combination as well, such as PN, and the question stays the same.
 
A persuasive representation which – to my mind – addresses your question can be found in “The Principles of Chemical Equilibrium“ (see pages 9-13) by Kenneth Denbigh.
https://archive.org/details/ThePrinciplesOfChemicalEquilibrium/page/n30
 
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