Question about the Carnot engine

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The Carnot engine's efficiency is defined by the formula Carnot efficiency = 1 - (QH-QL)/QH = 1 - (TH-TL)/TH, where QH is heat input, QL is heat output, TH is input temperature, and TL is output temperature. The relationship between temperatures and heat is explained by thermodynamic principles, specifically that TH is proportional to QH and TL to QL, as derived from the second law of thermodynamics. This relationship is further clarified through the definition of thermodynamic temperature, which links heat transfer to temperature ratios. The discussion highlights that the efficiency of all Carnot engines is consistent, regardless of the working substance, due to these foundational thermodynamic laws. Understanding this can be simplified through the derivation involving entropy and heat flow in the Carnot cycle.
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I was reading about the Carnot engine, and I stumbled upon this forumla:

Carnot efficiency = 1 - (QH-QL)/QH = 1 - (TH-TL)/TH

Where QH is the heat input, QL is the heat output, TH is the input temperature, TL is the output temperature.

The book says that TH is proportional to QH, and TL is proportional to QL, but it does not state why. Well it seems common sense that you have more heat input if the source is hotter, but is there a more scientific explanation? Or is it just a finding from Carnot's observations?
 
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It's true by definition of thermodynamic temperature, T. You can show from the second law of thermodynamics that all Carnot engines have the same efficiency, independently of working substance, so their efficiencies can depend only on the temperatures TH and TC. It was, I believe, the idea of William Thomson (Lord Kelvin) to define temperature such that \frac{T_H}{T_C}=\frac{Q_H}{Q_C} in which QH and QC are the heat input and heat output of a Carnot engine.

By taking the special case of an ideal gas as working substance in a Carnot engine, it is easy to show that the thermodynamic temperature as defined above, is equivalent to temperature defined by pV = nRT for a gas at limitingly low density.

Obviously what I've written is highly condensed. It is spelled out in detail in old-fashioned textbooks such as Zemansky.
 
titaniumpen said:
I was reading about the Carnot engine, and I stumbled upon this forumla:

Carnot efficiency = 1 - (QH-QL)/QH = 1 - (TH-TL)/TH

Where QH is the heat input, QL is the heat output, TH is the input temperature, TL is the output temperature.

The book says that TH is proportional to QH, and TL is proportional to QL, but it does not state why. Well it seems common sense that you have more heat input if the source is hotter, but is there a more scientific explanation? Or is it just a finding from Carnot's observations?
Start with:

ΔS = ∫dQ/T

In the Carnot cycle, ΔS = 0. Since heat flows at constant temperature, this means that Qh/Th + Qc/Tc = 0. Since Qh = -|Qh| (i.e. heat flow is out of the hot register so it is negative), we have: |Qc|/Tc = |Qh|/Th, which reduces to |Qh/Qc|= Th/Tc.

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Thanks for the replies! I didn't know the answer is so simple. :smile:
 
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