Question combined mode radiation and convection ?

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The discussion revolves around combined mode heat transfer, specifically focusing on convection and radiation in the context of a pipe. Participants are exploring the application of the Stefan-Boltzmann constant and the appropriate surface area calculations for different geometries.

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  • Participants are questioning the use of the Stefan-Boltzmann constant in relation to emissivity and its application in the problem. There are inquiries about the surface area calculations for a pipe versus other shapes, and how to identify the modes of heat transfer involved.

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The discussion is active with multiple participants seeking clarification on specific values and concepts. Some guidance has been provided regarding the surface area of a cylinder and the significance of emissivity in the context of radiation. However, there remains uncertainty about the application of certain constants and the definitions of surface areas for various shapes.

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Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the use of constants and the definitions of surface areas in heat transfer problems. There is also a focus on distinguishing between different modes of heat transfer and their relevance to the question at hand.

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Here we have question with answer
Could please explain to me the answer of this question ?

and can explain to me why we don't use area 2pi . r^2 because we have pipe ?

and how we can know this combined modes ? I mean conduction and radiation ?

In addtion , As I know s = the stephan-Boltzmann constant 5.6697 x 10-8

why here we used that value for emissivy ?
 
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manal950 said:
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Here we have question with answer
Could please explain to me the answer of this question ?

The solution is adding the heat losses from each mode (convection and radiation).

and can explain to me why we don't use area 2pi . r^2 because we have pipe ?
You want the surface area of the pipe, not the cross-sectional area.

and how we can know this combined modes ? I mean conduction and radiation ?
There are three possible modes of heat transfer: conduction, convection, and radiation. Heat transfer by conduction doesn't work so well for a gas, it's main method of transport is convection.
 
thanks but:

1 ) this value 5.67 X 10 ^ -8 for what ? becuse some time we used this for emissivy and some stme for stefan boltoman constant

2 ) Is alwyes in this formula we used surface area of the pipe ?

3 ) what is surface area for plate and cycle ?

4 ) How we know here in this question there is radiation of heat transfer ?
 
manal950 said:
thanks but:

1 ) this value 5.67 X 10 ^ -8 for what ? becuse some time we used this for emissivy and some stme for stefan boltoman constant
It is Boltzmann's constant. See: Stefan-Boltzmann Law
2 ) Is alwyes in this formula we used surface area of the pipe ?
The surface area of a cylinder is given by the circumference multiplied by the length. The circumference is given by ##2 \pi r## or ##\pi D##, where D is the diameter of the cylinder.
3 ) what is surface area for plate and cycle ?
(Circle?)
Surface for a plate is length x width. That gives the area of one side of the plate.
A circle is the usual ##\pi r^2##

4 ) How we know here in this question there is radiation of heat transfer ?

The obvious hint is that they gave you a value for the emissivity, ε.
 
thanks so much but you said that is for Boltzmann's constant but here in this quetions we used 5.67 X 10 ^ -8 fro
emissivy ? why ?
 
yes now I got it ..

thanks so so muck gneill
 

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