Question for arildno about raising an ancient ship

  • Thread starter Thread starter wolram
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ship
AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the raising of ancient ships, specifically mentioning the Swedish ship Vasa and the German vessel Blucher. The Vasa sank on its maiden voyage in the 17th century due to instability caused by an extra deck of cannons ordered by the king, despite engineers' warnings. It was eventually raised and is now displayed in a museum, although it is fragile and deteriorating over time. The Blucher, sunk during the German invasion of Norway in 1940, delayed the capture of Oslo and is considered for raising due to oil seepage concerns, but risks damaging the hull prevent action. The conversation highlights the historical significance and preservation challenges of these vessels.
wolram
Gold Member
Dearly Missed
Messages
4,410
Reaction score
555
Some time ago i saw a prog about raising an ancient ship, it sank on its maiden voyage in your part of the world, do you know of this, was it raised?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
wolram said:
Some time ago i saw a prog about raising an ancient ship, it sank on its maiden voyage in your part of the world, do you know of this, was it raised?
It might be the ill-famed Swedish Gustav Wasa ship?
That was raised many years ago, and is in a museum.

The king demanded to have an extra deck of cannons on board, the engineers said "not possible, your majesty", but back then in the 17th century, kings had their will.

And thus it sailed out on his maiden voyage, unstable, and tipped over very soon.


Alternatively, you might be thinking of the German vessel "Blucher" which was sunk from the shore on the invasion day 9. april 1940 in the Oslofjord.
This event delayed the German capture of our capital for 8 hours, making it possible to get our ministers and royal family away from an otherwise certain capture.


We have discussed raising Blucher due to the oil seepage from the wreck.
But, we haven't dared, due to the danger that the hull might break and spill out all the oil at once.


Any of these ships you were thinking of?
 
It sounds like the first one, they said it sank because a gust of wind keeled it over and the lower gun ports let the sea in, if it is in a museum in good preservation it must be akin to the Mary Rose or may be even better?
 
It is EXTREMELY fragile, and is basically falling apart year by year.
I'm not sure if the museum is still open for the public.
 
Here is a picture of it:
180px-Vasa_from_port1.jpg
 
What a loss that must have been

http://hem.bredband.net/johava/WASAe.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship )
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Similar to the 2024 thread, here I start the 2025 thread. As always it is getting increasingly difficult to predict, so I will make a list based on other article predictions. You can also leave your prediction here. Here are the predictions of 2024 that did not make it: Peter Shor, David Deutsch and all the rest of the quantum computing community (various sources) Pablo Jarrillo Herrero, Allan McDonald and Rafi Bistritzer for magic angle in twisted graphene (various sources) Christoph...
Thread 'My experience as a hostage'
I believe it was the summer of 2001 that I made a trip to Peru for my work. I was a private contractor doing automation engineering and programming for various companies, including Frito Lay. Frito had purchased a snack food plant near Lima, Peru, and sent me down to oversee the upgrades to the systems and the startup. Peru was still suffering the ills of a recent civil war and I knew it was dicey, but the money was too good to pass up. It was a long trip to Lima; about 14 hours of airtime...

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
879
Replies
25
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
3K
Replies
30
Views
3K
Back
Top