Questions about capacitors, and arduino

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The discussion revolves around the use of capacitors in conjunction with an Arduino, specifically focusing on how to achieve a voltage of 5 volts or more using a AA battery, methods for controlling capacitor charging and discharging, and measuring current without damaging the Arduino.

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  • One participant questions whether it is possible to achieve 5 volts over a capacitor using a single AA battery, or if they are limited to 1.5 volts.
  • Another participant suggests charging four identical capacitors to 1.5 volts and using a relay to connect them in series to achieve approximately 5.3 volts after accounting for a diode drop.
  • A different approach is proposed involving a solar-powered garden light circuit, which can convert a lower voltage to a higher one, potentially providing several volts from a 1.5 volt battery.
  • One participant proposes using the Arduino itself to charge the capacitor to 5 volts, recommending the use of a resistor to protect the Arduino, and suggests connecting the capacitor to an analog pin for measuring discharge.
  • A participant clarifies that they chose 5 volts arbitrarily and expresses concern about using the Arduino's output pin directly for higher voltages, thus opting for a relay to isolate the capacitors from the Arduino.
  • There is a mention of the effect of connecting capacitors in series on capacitance, noting that while voltage increases, capacitance decreases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods for achieving higher voltages and controlling capacitor charging/discharging, but there is no consensus on a single best approach. Multiple competing views remain regarding the optimal method to safely interface with the Arduino.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss different methods for voltage conversion and capacitor management without resolving the implications of each method on performance or safety. There are also assumptions about the behavior of capacitors in series that are not fully explored.

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hey all, I've been playing around with capacitors and have a few questions

Is it possible to get 5 volts over a capacitor using a AA batery? Or am I limited to 1.5 volts?
If I have more than 5 volts going into an arduino pin, that will cause damage. But I can use a voltage divider to drop that, right?

I want to use an arduino to control capacitor charging/discharging, but in order to avoid damaging the arduino, I want to use it only for controlling a relay that acts as a two position switch- one position for charging, another for discharging, and for measuring the current going into the arduino.

how can I do that second part? if I put a pin between the battery's positive terminal, and capacitor, can I have that go an analog pin for measuring?

thanks!
 
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A simple way to get 5 volts using a single AA battery is to charge 4 identical capacitors to 1.5 volts, then use a 4-pole double throw (4PDT) relay switch to put them in series to get 6 volts. A diode drop will reduce this to about 5.3 volts.
 
Another way is to use a solar powered garden light.

These are often discarded because the NiCd battery in them fails.

However, there is a circuit in them that converts the output of a NiCd battery (1.2 volts) to about 3.5 volts to run a white LED.

If you disconnect the solar cell, the circuit will work as if it was in darkness and give several volts out from a 1.5 volt dry cell.
 
It seems the simplest to use the arduino itself to charge the capacitor to 5v, using a resistor if you are worried about damage to the arduino.
To measure the discharging of the capacitor, connect the negative lead of the capacitor to ground of the arduino and the other lead of the capacitor to an analog pin.
 
thanks for the info everyone, i picked 5V arbitrarily, so using the arduino's output pin isn't possible (Since I may choose 10, or 25 or whatever volts)- hence the relay (to isolate the capacitors from the arduino)

iirc, putting them in series will lower the capacitance (since they sum in inverse)
v=q/c
c goes down, q stays constant, so v increases!
 

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