Questions about Communication Protocols

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This discussion focuses on the communication protocols used in electrical equipment for substations, specifically Modbus, Profibus, and IEC-61850. The project engineer seeks clarity on connector types such as RS232, RS485, and DB9, as well as cable choices like fiber optic and twisted pair. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding bandwidth, environmental requirements, and historical conventions in selecting the appropriate components for network connections. Recommendations include researching summary pages and reference links on Wikipedia for foundational knowledge.

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  • Understanding of Modbus, Profibus, and IEC-61850 protocols
  • Familiarity with RS232, RS485, and DB9 connectors
  • Knowledge of cable types including fiber optic and twisted pair
  • Awareness of bandwidth and environmental requirements in communication systems
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  • Research Modbus protocol specifications and applications
  • Study Profibus communication standards and use cases
  • Learn about IEC-61850 and its relevance in substation automation
  • Explore connector and cable selection criteria for industrial communication
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Project engineers, electrical engineers, and technicians involved in substation communication systems will benefit from this discussion, particularly those looking to enhance their understanding of communication protocols and component selection.

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I work as a project engineer of electrical equipment for substations.
More and more I have to deal with the communication of these equipment with PLC and other equipments. But I really don't know much about this area.
For example, we have Modbus, Profibus, IEC-61850... every now and then I have to verify if we have the components required to connect some equipment to some network.
So the following questions arise:
- What type of connector do I need? When do I use RS232, RS485, DB9, etc?
- What type of cable do I need? When do I use fiber optic, twisted pair or whatever?

I have searched and read parts of books about it, but they don't really get straight to the point.
I would really appreaciate if someone could give me an introduction about it.
 
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Your answers depend on the bandwidth and environmental requirements, and more important on the historical accidents of convention. RS232 for example, has been implemented with dozens of connector and cable combinations.

An "accident" might be that a manufacturer chose to use DB9 connectors. You have to accommodate that even if he had no good reason for choosing DB9 over alternatives.

I'm afraid that my answer amounts to no answer of your question.
 
F.ono said:
I work as a project engineer of electrical equipment for substations.
More and more I have to deal with the communication of these equipment with PLC and other equipments. But I really don't know much about this area.
For example, we have Modbus, Profibus, IEC-61850... every now and then I have to verify if we have the components required to connect some equipment to some network.
So the following questions arise:
- What type of connector do I need? When do I use RS232, RS485, DB9, etc?
- What type of cable do I need? When do I use fiber optic, twisted pair or whatever?

I have searched and read parts of books about it, but they don't really get straight to the point.
I would really appreaciate if someone could give me an introduction about it.

I googled Modbus, Profibus, IEC-61850, and got some good hits on summary pages. I'd suggest reading through some of them, and following some of the reference links at the Wikipedia pages. That should start to give you a better understanding. If you have specific questions about that reading, please do post them here so we can help out. :-)
 

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