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The discussion revolves around determining the coefficient of friction using experimental values obtained from a physics lab involving a horizontal pulley system. The original poster seeks confirmation on their calculations and methodology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes their calculations for the force of friction and the normal force, leading to their determination of the coefficient of friction. Some participants question the unit conversions used in the calculations, while others suggest alternative approaches to simplify the process.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback on the original poster's calculations, noting a potential error in unit conversion but affirming the overall method. There is an ongoing exploration of different ways to approach the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the assumption that the table and string are horizontal, and the type of friction being measured is questioned, specifically whether it is static friction.

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Homework Statement

Hello, this is my first time posting, I've run into a bit of a snag in my physics lab. I am to figure out the coefficient of friction based on the values we found in the lab. Now I found them out however I just want to be sure that I am doing this right. these values were determined using a simple,horizontal pulley system that ran off the end of a table



Homework Equations



F=MA
coefficient of friction= Force of friction/force normal

The Attempt at a Solution


So I have the weight on the table at 1,045g and the weight required to pull this weight towards the end of the table was 170g.
I figured the force of friction was the mass of the pulley (170g) X the acceleration of Gravity, so F=170g X 9.8 m/s squared which came out to be 1666N

Now the force normal i figured to be the same way. The weight on top of the table was 1,045g X 9.8m/s squared which came out to be 10241N

so now I have the force of friction to be 1666N and the force normal to be 10241N
I then used the coefficient of friction equation, 1666N/10241N which came out to be .16

So after all that my coefficient of friction was .16
Could anyone please tell me if I am doing this right? I believe I am but would like to be sure.
 
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A Newton is a kg*m/s^2, not a g*m/s^2. So the gravity on the weight wouldn't be 1045g*9.8 m/s; it would be 1.045 kg *9.8 m/s. Otherwise, your work is right.
 
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Hi Kingbaldur! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(I take it that the table and the string are both exactly horizontal, and that you're measuring the coefficient of static friction?)

Yes, your method is correct, but you could just have left g as g (instead of multiplying by 9.8 twice), and said 170g/1045g = .16 :wink:
 
Hmm, I see, well thanks to both of you.
 

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