Quick question about perfect gas

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In the discussion about mixing helium and krypton as a perfect gas, participants explore which average values must be equal for the mixture to behave ideally. It is established that mass cannot be equal due to the inherent differences between the gases. The focus shifts to temperature, suggesting that at the same temperature, both gases would have the same kinetic energy, a characteristic of perfect gases. However, the conversation highlights that achieving thermal equilibrium is not guaranteed in all mixtures. The participants seek to clarify the specific properties that define a perfect gas and differentiate it from real gas behavior.
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Two different gasses (Helium and Cripton) are mixed up. We can assume the compound behaves as a perfect gas only if the atoms of He and Kr have the same average value of:
  • Mass
  • Momentum
  • Velocity
  • Kinetic energy
Which one is correct? I can't figure it out.
 
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Which one do you think it is and why? Let's start there.
 
Obviously it's not mass (average mass can't be equal in any circumnstances), because they are at the same temperature I suppose they have the same kinetic energy, but wouldn't that happen for every kind of mixture? I can't undestand what specific property of a perfect gas is important here, what makes this mixture perfect and not real.
 
criticalPoint said:
Obviously it's not mass (average mass can't be equal in any circumnstances)
I agree about mass.
criticalPoint said:
because they are at the same temperature I suppose they have the same kinetic energy, but wouldn't that happen for every kind of mixture? I can't undestand what specific property of a perfect gas is important here, what makes this mixture perfect and not real.
Not necessarily. Maybe after a long period of time every mixture will be in thermal equilibrium, but it doesn't have to be the case. I agree thermal equilibrium is a property which would imply the same kinetic energy. What are the other properties? Can they help us here?
 
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