Quick Trigonometric Identity Question

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The discussion revolves around confirming the transformation of a trigonometric expression into a known identity. The user is solving an integral involving the expression sin((x+y)/2) * cos((x-y)/2) and seeks to verify if it can be expressed as (1/2)(sin x + sin y). After initial confusion about the region of integration, which was clarified to be bounded by specific equations, the user realizes that using the trigonometric identity does not simplify the integral as intended. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment that while the approach was valid, it did not yield a shorter solution in this instance.
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Hi! I have an integral to solve (that's not the point, though) and the inside of the integral is almost a trig identity:

1. Homework Statement

##sin\frac{(x+y)} {2}*cos\frac{(x-y)} {2} ##

Homework Equations



I noticed this was very similar to ##sinx+siny = 2sin \frac{(x+y)} {2} * cos\frac{(x-y)} {2}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Initially, within the context of the problem (a double integral over a certain region) I had used a change of variables which, while tedious, was doable (I can share that work, if you want). While reviewing my work, I recalled this identity, and just wanted to make sure whether or not I could transform the equation into ## \frac {1} {2} (sinx+siny) = sin \frac{(x+y)} {2} * cos\frac{(x-y)} {2}##. I don't see why I couldn't, but I just want a confirmation.

Thank you for your time!
 
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Draconifors said:
Hi! I have an integral to solve (that's not the point, though) and the inside of the integral is almost a trig identity:

1. Homework Statement

##sin\frac{(x+y)} {2}*cos\frac{(x-y)} {2} ##

Homework Equations



I noticed this was very similar to ##sinx+siny = 2sin \frac{(x+y)} {2} * cos\frac{(x-y)} {2}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Initially, within the context of the problem (a double integral over a certain region) I had used a change of variables which, while tedious, was doable (I can share that work, if you want). While reviewing my work, I recalled this identity, and just wanted to make sure whether or not I could transform the equation into ## \frac {1} {2} (sinx+siny) = sin \frac{(x+y)} {2} * cos\frac{(x-y)} {2}##. I don't see why I couldn't, but I just want a confirmation.

Thank you for your time!
That looks perfectly fine to me.

What is region of integration?
 
SammyS said:
That looks perfectly fine to me.

What is region of integration?

Thank you for your answer!

The region is bounded by ##x+y=0 ##, ##x+y=2 ## and ##y=0 ##.

That's why I had initially defined ##u=x-y ## and ##v=x+y ##. It was a doable but kind of long integral to do, so I wanted to see whether I could shorten it down.
 
Draconifors said:
Thank you for your answer!

The region is bounded by ##x+y=0 ##, ##x+y=2 ## and ##y=0 ##.

That's why I had initially defined ##u=x-y ## and ##v=x+y ##. It was a doable but kind of long integral to do, so I wanted to see whether I could shorten it down.
That region is not bounded. Is there a typo ?
 
SammyS said:
That region is not bounded. Is there a typo ?

Yes, I'm sorry!

It should read ##x-y=0## for the first equation.And I'm redoing my problem using the trigonometric identity, and I notice that it's not actually shorter because of my upper bound being 2-x for y.
 
Draconifors said:
Yes, I'm sorry!

It should read ##x-y=0## for the first equation.And I'm redoing my problem using the trigonometric identity, and I notice that it's not actually shorter because of my upper bound being 2-x for y.
Well, it was a good idea anyway. It just didn't work out in this case.
 
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