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Radial Schwarzschild geodesics - again

  1. Jun 25, 2013 #1


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    Suppose there is a radially free falling object starting at r(t=0) = r0 > rS with some initial velocity v. And suppose there is a radial light ray starting at R(t=0) = R0 > r0.

    Suppose that both the object and the light ray reach the singularity at the same time.

    Question: is there a simple expression to calculate R0 in terms of r0 and v?

    In other words: from which radius R0 must a radial light ray start in order to reach the singularity together with a radial free fall observer starting at r0 with initial velocity v?

    Another equivalent question: which maximal sphere defined by R0 can be observed by an astronaut falling towards the singularity starting at starting at r0 with initial velocity v?
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    Which t coordinate are you using? Since both starting points are outside the horizon, I would assume Schwarzschild coordinate time?
  4. Jun 25, 2013 #3


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    Yes, r, R and t are Schwarzschild coordinates
  5. Jun 25, 2013 #4


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    The simplest way I know if is to convert to ingoing eddington finklestein coordinates. Then one of the coordinates (u or v, I'd have to look it up) will be constant for an ingoing light ray. Finding the value of this coordinate when the object reaches the singularity tells you when the light beam must have started (because the coordinate is constant everywhere along the ingoing geodesic).

    Looking up a previous post the coordinate is u, and I did some analysis in https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=4197343&postcount=334 for the infall equations for the case E=0, which corresponds to a free-fall from at rest at infinity.

    You'll have to convert back to Schwarzschild coordinates to get the answer to your original quesiton in Schwarzschild coordinates, however.
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