Radioactive Decay: Alien Element Unstable Isotope

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of an unstable isotope of an alien element and the potential for particles generated from its radioactive decay to be entangled. Participants explore the implications of this idea, particularly in relation to faster-than-light (FTL) data transfer and the scientific utility of entangled particles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the idea of entangled particles from radioactive decay and questions its feasibility and potential scientific applications.
  • Another participant asserts that entangled particles do not enable faster-than-light data transfer, labeling this notion as a common misconception.
  • A different participant inquires about the percentage of emitted particles that are entangled, expressing curiosity about the implications of having a high percentage of entangled pairs.
  • Another contribution mentions that it is believed that entanglement is not useful for transmitting information due to its inherently random nature.
  • One participant discusses the physical processes of emitted particles, noting that in a scientific context, radioactive particles are limited to alpha, beta, or gamma emissions, and suggests that in science fiction, the laws of physics can be modified.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using entangled particles for data transfer, with some asserting that it is not possible while others explore the idea further. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the actual percentage of entangled particles and their potential benefits.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about the nature of entanglement and its applications, as well as the dependence on the definitions of particles and their interactions in both scientific and fictional contexts.

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Hi guys, in my plot I have an unstable isotope of an alien element and I was wondering wouldn't it be nice if most of the particles generated from the decaying are entangled, how do you think, does it sound silly and totally impossible? If it is a good idea, then how such a property can be used by scientists? I was thinking about something like faster than light data transfer systems or something like that...
 
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Ogi said:
Hi guys, in my plot I have an unstable isotope of an alien element and I was wondering wouldn't it be nice if most of the particles generated from the decaying are entangled, how do you think, does it sound silly and totally impossible? If it is a good idea, then how such a property can be used by scientists? I was thinking about something like faster than light data transfer systems or something like that...
Entangled particles do not allow faster than light data transfers. That is a common misconception. You can say that it does if you like in a sci-fic story but do not make the mistake of thinking you are writing "hard science" when in fact you would be writing non-science.
 
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Ok, let's forget about the FTL data transfer, I searched google, but I couldn't find how much of the particles emitted from the radioactive elements are actually entangled - 1%, 10%... 100%? And if 100% of the particles are pairs what benefits scientists could have from such a property?
 
Ogi said:
Hi guys, in my plot I have an unstable isotope of an alien element and I was wondering wouldn't it be nice if most of the particles generated from the decaying are entangled, how do you think, does it sound silly and totally impossible? If it is a good idea, then how such a property can be used by scientists? I was thinking about something like faster than light data transfer systems or something like that...

I've been told that just about every particle is entangled with every other. As you might think, this is such a mess that it is hard to imagine any use for it.

It is generally believed that entanglement is not useful for transmitting information. It's by nature a random pattern. So you're on your own with that.
 
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Ogi said:
Ok, let's forget about the FTL data transfer, I searched google, but I couldn't find how much of the particles emitted from the radioactive elements are actually entangled - 1%, 10%... 100%? And if 100% of the particles are pairs what benefits scientists could have from such a property?
Well assuming the physics elsewhere in our universe is the same as it is locally, then there are no new elements and the radioactive particles are limited to alpha (for some nuclides heavier than bismuth, Z = 83), beta or gamma. The particles emitted then proceed through local matter, which becomes transiently ionized or excited, then the particles slow down and stop. Alpha particles become He, and beta particles simply settle into an atom. Gammas will scatter down to lower energy photons, or if at high enough energy (> ~ 1.02 MeV), could induce a nuclear reaction.

Of course, in science fiction, one can suspend reality and modify or rewrite the laws of physics, especially if the story takes place in a different universe.
 
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