Radioactive decay - the difference between "lambda" and "k"

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distinction between two decay constants, λ (lambda) and k, in the context of radioactive decay. Participants explore their definitions, relationships to half-life, and implications in decay equations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification regarding the use of these constants in decay models.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines k as ln(0.5) / half-life and λ as ln(2) / half-life, questioning if this interpretation is correct.
  • Another participant agrees with the definition and states that k = -λ, elaborating on the derivation of decay equations from the model where decay rate is proportional to the amount present.
  • A later reply emphasizes the relationship between λ, k, and half-life, suggesting caution in the interpretation of these constants.
  • There is mention of the standard relation N(t) = N0 * e^(kt) and its connection to the mean life τ, indicating different forms of expressing decay based on the constants used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express some agreement on the definitions and relationships between λ and k, but there is also caution and clarification needed regarding their use in equations. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach to represent these constants.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the definitions of half-life and the decay constants, as well as the mathematical steps involved in deriving the relationships.

wolf1728
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When reading about radioactive decay, I see two types of decay constants: λ and "k".
From what I have interpreted, k = ln (.5) / half-life
whereas λ = ln (2) / half-life.
Have I defined these correctly?
If this is so, the difference between the two is slight.
When putting these into equations, we see:
Nt = N0*ekt
Nt = N0*e-λt
The only difference seems to be that when using lambda, you have to remember to put the negative sign in the exponent.
It just seems confusing to me that some authors use λ whereas others use "k".
 
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Well ##\ln (2) = -\ln (1/2)## ...notice that ##\ln (1/2)<0##?
Basically you are correct, ##k=-\lambda##

... the standard relations is actually ##N(t)=N_0e^{t/\tau}## where ##\tau## is the mean life.
The expressions are usually derived from the model where the rate of decay is proportional to the amount of material present ... so ##\dot N = -kN: N(0)=N_0##, where k>0 is the constant of proportionality. This is a 1st order homogeneous DE and an initial value problem ... solve it by proposing solutions of form ##N(t)=e^{\lambda t}## ... which is just the standard way of solving DEs.
This is where the ##\lambda## and ##k## comes from.

Their relationship to the half-life is down to the definition of "half life".
 
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Simon Bridge
Thank you for that answer.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Well ##\ln (2) = -\ln (1/2)## ...notice that ##\ln (1/2)<0##?
Basically you are correct, ##k=-\lambda##

... the standard relations is actually ##N(t)=N_0e^{t/\tau}## where ##\tau## is the mean life.
The expressions are usually derived from the model where the rate of decay is proportional to the amount of material present ... so ##\dot N = -kN: N(0)=N_0##, where k>0 is the constant of proportionality. This is a 1st order homogeneous DE and an initial value problem ... solve it by proposing solutions of form ##N(t)=e^{\lambda t}## ... which is just the standard way of solving DEs.
This is where the ##\lambda## and ##k## comes from.

Their relationship to the half-life is down to the definition of "half life".
NO. A lot of correct but be careful here.
N(t) = N0 .5t/tau
OR
N(t) = N0 ekt
with decay constant, use e-base, with half-life, use 1/2 as the base.
(sorry, every time I put in symbol font in the BBcode, it came out times new roman so I just spelled it out)
 

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