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Oh god, I'm an omnivore, not a herbivore. Stop guilt-tripping me about eating meat!
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Food for thought, almost literally.nuuskur said:
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This is how we settled the planet. Boars are similar successful. Obviously for the same reasons.nuuskur said:
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The way I see it, domesticated animals live way better lives (significantly longer, without predators, reliable food supplyetc.) than those who live more "natural" lives. Seems only fair they give something in return. Of course, this refers to animals treated humanely, not to those who are abused; whole other topic.fresh_42 said:This is how we settled the planet. Boars are similar successful. Obviously for the same reasons.
It would be great to give animals the freedom to return to the wild, but I doubt many would thrive or even survive. If animals had not been domesticated, the issue would be different. Still, maybe they should all be allowed to return to the wild. There may be some atavistic reasons why humans choose to kill animals. Still, this is just a minor comment, not a full argument.
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She was speaking as if we do nothing to replenish the stock. It's as if we hunt the animals down to extinction and in some cases it may be so, but I have no fact to back that assumption, but generally speaking, that's not the case and one can see it clear as day in an area dominated by agriculture.
"Do you even know what these animals go through?" to which I replied "what, you saw Earthlings on TV?" aaaand.. she snapped.
Moral of the story, don't believe everything you see on TV and advocate it as the absolute truth.
Besides, I'm not a squirrel, I'm a fully fledged omnivore entitled to a nice steak and not a piece of grass on the plate for dinner!
"Do you even know what these animals go through?" to which I replied "what, you saw Earthlings on TV?" aaaand.. she snapped.
Moral of the story, don't believe everything you see on TV and advocate it as the absolute truth.
Besides, I'm not a squirrel, I'm a fully fledged omnivore entitled to a nice steak and not a piece of grass on the plate for dinner!
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There is a problem with feral/wild boars in parts of the U.S. They seem to do well in the wild (way better than many, if not all other species), and many of the wild ones end up weighing around 1,000 pounds.fresh_42 said:This is how we settled the planet. Boars are similar successful. Obviously for the same reasons.
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By this time I have had to, at least once, have this conversation with some extremist per year. The year just started! Oh brother..
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I get the impression a lot of vegetarians are either angry people ( they lack the enjoyment of a piece of steak) or weak , because it is hard to get the right amount of protein from vegetables alone (though tooo much animal protein is not good either). Meat is chemically more complex than any vegetable, and, in this sense, tastier than vegetables. In my experience only the Indians in their cuisine have come close to making vegetables seem tasty. And it is difficult to find reasonable vegetarian options in most places.nuuskur said:
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Yes, absolutely yes for Indian food, I don't know what sorcery that is, but it's delicious.
On the composition of the vegetarian food vs normal...I mean ..food that contains meat, that's the argument they always bring up. "You know, it's scientifically proven that a human being can obtain every single necessary substance from any ..what's the word... non-meat food?" Yeah? Why don't you kindly point this research out to me aaaand they snap and totally change the subject and accuse me of being an inconsiderate a-word and have complete and utter disregard for my surrounding environment and you name it.
On the composition of the vegetarian food vs normal...I mean ..food that contains meat, that's the argument they always bring up. "You know, it's scientifically proven that a human being can obtain every single necessary substance from any ..what's the word... non-meat food?" Yeah? Why don't you kindly point this research out to me aaaand they snap and totally change the subject and accuse me of being an inconsiderate a-word and have complete and utter disregard for my surrounding environment and you name it.
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That problem occurs around the world. But one can eat them. IMO the only way to get rid of invasive species like flying Asian carps.WWGD said:
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Think of the type of banquet you can have with a 1,000-pound boar. Tho you will need a gigantic spit to cook it in. Leftovers alone could feed you for a month.fresh_42 said:
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that's strange. I used to get Indian videos when searching on youtube, even when my queries were in English. I never searched for anything in Indian and didn't google anything associated with it. But I always got such results for quite a long time. No idea why.WWGD said:
Maybe they are trying some new algorithms that cause issues like this?
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On a completely random note, I hate snow-shovelling.
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Google seems to be pretty poor at anticipating my searches for some reason, though they are obviously very good and successful in many respects otherwise. Was your experience getting the Indian videos a recent one ?Sophia said:
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To me snow is good either in postcards , or when you are inside with a hot drink. Otherwise it is a romanticism of those who don't live with it. Tho maybe it helps you appreciate the Summer weather some more. I mean, I am exaggerating, it is not so bad when there is little wind, but not quite as good as Summer for me (unless it is brutally hot).nuuskur said:
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I went ten years without eating any meat. It started as a diet to lose weight, and then continued by inertia. I didn't feel any different: no drop in energy, and I used to exercise pretty regularly back then. Vegetarians used to claim that if you went back to eating meat, you would feel sick. But that didn't happen either. I did, however, lose the trim figure.nuuskur said:
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If you click on anything, even by accident, YouTube thinks you love that subject or genre, and it starts offering that every time you go there. This happens to me whenever I watch any video someone posts here, at PF. Suddenly YouTube suggests a slew of similar videos, though I, myself haven't ever searched for any like that.Sophia said:
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Will it make someone happy if I say I care or when I say I actually don't care ? Racist is racist, there is no "pretend to be racist or classy!" to me.
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Sometimes I'll watch a YouTube video and then continue watching whatever it keeps suggesting, just to see where it goes, if for no other reason just to see vague connections. It might start off with a Leonard Susskind lecture and then eventually, somehow, end up with a Taylor Swift music video.
Speaking of which, am I the only one who's noticed the strange syncopation between the Melvins and Taylor Swift?
Start by watching this video. I highly recommend listening to the whole thing, but if you don't like this sort of music, that's fine. Just start playing this one first, and if you want to skip to some point ahead, that's OK.
And then, at some random point when the Melvin's video is already playing, simultaneously, play this video such that the sound of both videos are playing at the same time. (Pretty much any Taylor Swift song will do, I just picked this one for no good reason.)
If they are not in sync immediately, listen for a couple of minutes and they will sync up. It's a bizarre sort to syncopation going on. It's fascinating. And maybe kind of creepy. So creepy that it's particularly fascinating.
Speaking of which, am I the only one who's noticed the strange syncopation between the Melvins and Taylor Swift?
Start by watching this video. I highly recommend listening to the whole thing, but if you don't like this sort of music, that's fine. Just start playing this one first, and if you want to skip to some point ahead, that's OK.
And then, at some random point when the Melvin's video is already playing, simultaneously, play this video such that the sound of both videos are playing at the same time. (Pretty much any Taylor Swift song will do, I just picked this one for no good reason.)
If they are not in sync immediately, listen for a couple of minutes and they will sync up. It's a bizarre sort to syncopation going on. It's fascinating. And maybe kind of creepy. So creepy that it's particularly fascinating.
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It's not working for me. Maybe you're the first human with infrared hearing, or something.
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To electronic for me i like raw guitar and drums.
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Then again, maybe the Melvins might go with anything. Right now I'm watching the Melvins music (link from the previous post) together with a Bill Nye debate about creationism. [I like Bill Nye.] It's perfect.
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It is up to you as to who you would want to be. Cheers! 
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Still not catching anything I find interesting in CSpan's BookTV with just one exception , over the last month or so : a presentation on drones by Bill Akins.
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Where is that smell coming from? I don't remember leaving any food out for a while.
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You know how much I loved to complain. Don't let me curse the rain. There is more to life than just how I feel.WWGD said:
I must confess I've been infected with the song!
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Is there a smell song you are referring to?Silicon Waffle said:You know how much I loved to complain. Don't let me curse the rain. There is more to life than just how I feel.
I must confess I've been infected with the song!
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https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/best-songs-ever-2.718488/page-37#post-5347186WWGD said:
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Sorry
Sorry, I don't get it.Silicon Waffle said:
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Do you find the songs I posted good to listen ?WWGD said: