RC-circuit for charged capacitor

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When the switch in the RC circuit is closed, the charged capacitor begins to discharge through the resistor towards the battery. The initial assumption that the capacitor acts as a current source is incorrect; instead, current flows from the capacitor to the battery due to the higher potential of the capacitor. The equation for charge, q(t)=CV+(q_0-CV)e^{(t-t_0)/RC}, needs to be corrected for the sign of the IR term, as the current direction affects voltage drops across components. It is essential to establish a consistent current direction for accurate analysis, treating the battery as a positive source and the resistor and capacitor as negative. Ultimately, the capacitor will discharge until its potential equals that of the battery.
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Homework Statement


I have a simple circuit consisting of a charged capacitor and a resistor connected in series to a battery.
Suppose that initially the potential across the capacitor is greater than that of the battery. (ie. \frac{q}{C}>V).

What happens to the capacitor when the switch is closed and the circuit completed?

Homework Equations


Kirchhoff's 2nd:
V+IR-\frac{q}{C}=0
Solving for q:
q(t)=CV+(q_0-CV)e^{(t-t_0)/RC}
where q_0 is the initial charge on the capacitor at time t_0

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm guessing that when the switch is closed we should expect the capacitor to discharge to a certain degree and after some time have the same potential as the battery.

But my equation q(t)=CV+(q_0-CV)e^{(t-t_0)/RC} does not reflect this.

As t\rightarrow\infty the charge on the capaictor q(t)\rightarrow (q_0-CV)e^{(t-t_0)/RC}\rightarrow\infty

What am I doing wrong?
 
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You have the wrong sign on the IR term.
 
vela said:
You have the wrong sign on the IR term.

Are you sure? My reasoning is that if the potential on the capacitor is larger than on the battery then
1. electrons will flow from the battery to the capacitor
so
2. current is flowing in counter-clockwise direction - from the capacitor to the battery.

Lastly, if a resistor is traversed in the direction opposite the current, the potential difference across the resistor is +IR.
 
The problem you're running into is that I_r = -I_c. You're assuming I=dq/dt, which is negative if the capacitor is discharging, and using it as a positive quantity when calculating the voltage drop across the resistor.

Trying to get the signs right by reasoning which way the current flows is a mistake waiting to happen. It's much easier to just assume a direction for the current. Then for capacitors and resistors, the voltage "drops" going from where the current enters to where it leaves. For the battery, the opposite convention holds because the battery is a source, not a sink.

So for this circuit, assume the current flows clockwise through the circuit. Starting at the negative terminal of the battery and going clockwise, first, the potential go up by V; then it drops by IR across the resistor; and then it drops by q/C across the capacitor. If the current actually flows in the other direction, I becomes negative, and the direction of the voltage drop across the resistor automatically flips. By following this convention, you're also guaranteed that I=dq/dt.
 
Vela thank you for your explanation.

So we always treat a battery as positive and a resistor and capacitor as negative?

I guess my confusion lies in the fact that I expect the capacitor to act as a current source since it potential is larger than that of the battery.
 
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