RC Circuits, how do you solve for V(infinity)?

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The discussion revolves around analyzing an RC circuit to determine the voltage across the capacitor as time approaches infinity, denoted as V(infinity). Participants explore the behavior of the circuit before and after a switch is activated, considering the implications of the capacitor acting as an open circuit in a DC context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of the circuit, particularly the voltage across the capacitor before and after the switch is activated. Questions arise regarding the implications of the capacitor being treated as an open circuit and the conditions under which the current from the battery to the capacitor becomes zero.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their understanding of the circuit behavior and raising questions about specific voltage values and current flow at various time intervals. Some guidance has been offered regarding the behavior of the capacitor at different times, but no consensus has been reached on the final value of V(infinity).

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of assumptions regarding the initial voltage across the capacitor and the behavior of the circuit at t=0. Participants also express the need for clarity on the equations presented and the underlying principles of capacitor behavior in DC circuits.

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Homework Statement


Question is attached below

Homework Equations


v(t) =v(infinity) + [v(t0)-v(infinity)]e^[-(t-t0)]

The Attempt at a Solution


For t<0, you get the circuit where it is only Rt, R, and C, but in dc circuits, the capacitor is an open circuit, does this mean v(t0) =0?

For t>0 the middle Rt is removed and you get a circuit consisting of Vt, Rt, R and C. To find Rth, you short circuit Vt and open circuit C, so Req= Rt+R. So time constant is C(Rt+R). To find v(infinity), we open circuit the the capacitator, but how do you solve for v(infinity)?
 

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How large a voltage do you need across the capacitor in order that the current from the battery to the capacitor is zero?
 
I'm not too sure to be honest!
 
Hi,

So far, what I know is that the voltage across the capacitor is zero when t<0. For t>0,the switch is in position b and the capacitor is an open open circuit do dc. This will result in equation:

-VT+(RT+R)*ic+Vc(t>0)=0
= Vc(t>0)=VT-(RT+R)*ic

Can someone help me please?
 
"At DC a capacitor appears as an open-circuit" holds true ONLY under steady DC when all currents and voltages have reached fixed, unchanging levels. You could say this occurs at t=infinity.

At switch-on when the capacitor voltage is not at its final fixed value, the capacitor for that brief instant appears as a short-circuit.
 
1. Homework Statement
Question is attached below
Because print in photos is ALWAYS more difficult to read than forum text, it would be appreciated if you would ALWAYS retype the text in photos into your post out of consideration for those forum participants contending with small screens or thick lenses, or both. :smile:
 
sugz said:
I'm not too sure to be honest!
Hint: When the voltage across the capacitor (VC) is equal to the battery voltage (VT), what is the current from the battery to the capacitor?
 
Dear sugz,

In post #1 you mention one relevant equation. In #4 another one, but without explicitly showing where the time dependencies are.
I am wondering if you know what the one in post #1 means and understand where it comes from.
If you don't feel all that comfortable in this exercise, I'd advise you to read up just a little on capacitors, here and here and here. Or in your textbook, if that is clear enough.
The subject is not all that complicated and well worth the investment of your time.
I could repeat the material, but find the hyperphysics hard to surpass in clarity.
 
sugz said:
So far, what I know is that the voltage across the capacitor is zero when t<0. For t>0,the switch is in position b and the capacitor is an open open circuit do dc.

Correct but...

a) What is the voltage on the capacitor at t=0 ?
b) What is the voltage drop across the resistors at t=0?
c) What is the current through the resistors at t=0?
d) What happens to the charge and voltage on the capacitor as a result of that current?
 

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