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The discussion revolves around the concept of polarization, its definitions, types, and applications, particularly in the context of wireless communications. Participants explore the mechanisms of polarization in materials and its significance in signal transmission.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on what polarization is, why it is needed, and the different types that exist.
  • Another participant defines polarization as the response of a material to an incident electric field, highlighting the change in charge distribution as a key aspect.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how charge distribution changes under an electric field, including the movement of positive and negative charges in a neutral medium.
  • Polarization is noted as a significant factor in wireless communications, affecting signal attributes.
  • Discussion includes historical context, linking polarization technology to developments in radio communications since the 19th century.
  • Participants mention different types of polarization, such as linear, circular, and elliptical, with explanations of their characteristics and implications for antenna design.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the definitions and implications of polarization, with no consensus reached on a singular understanding or application. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple perspectives presented.

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Some claims about the efficiency of antennas in relation to polarization are presented without detailed mathematical backing or resolution of assumptions regarding signal attenuation.

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Hi i need to read somewhere about polarization. What polariation is.. Why we need it? What types of polarization exist and what are the differences.. and so on
 
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Here and here you go...

feel free to ask more clarification, if you need.

marlon
 
using a simple vocabularium, one could define polarization as the "way" a material reacts when you apply an incident electric field onto it.

Reacts means (and this is the clue) the change in charge distribution. Like for example the way the electron cloud will change its structure because of this incident E-field.

this E-field has a frequency and depending on that value, you get different contributions to the polarization. Ie, different mechanism react to the incident E-field like dipoles, ionic contribution, electronic contribution...

Another classical example is this : suppose you have 5 + charges and 5 - charges that are randomly distributed in a medium. the net charge is zero. If you apply a voltage onto this medium, the - charges will go to the positive side (electrode) and the + charges wil go to the negative side. Now you do have a net charge in the medium, you see ?

marlon
 
Thx i ll read your interesting links.. I am asking because we are using polarization in wireless communications.. and he polarization seems to be a factor that alters somehow the attributes of the signals/
 
dervast said:
Thx i ll read your interesting links.. I am asking because we are using polarization in wireless communications.. and he polarization seems to be a factor that alters somehow the attributes of the signals/
Polarization is important in wireless communications. This technology comes from one that has been developed since 19th century, radio communications. When radio waves are generated, the polarity of the electric field defines the polarity of the antenna. The electric field is perpendicular (orthogonal) to the magnetic field in a linearly polarized antenna.

Here is a http://www.hp.com/rnd/images/pdf_html/antennas_figure7.jpg example of horizontal versus vertical linear polarization (They are showing the orientation of the electric field). A receiving antenna ought to be of the same polarity as the transmitting antenna to receive the maximum signal. That does not mean you cannot use a horizontal antenna to receive a vertically polarized radio wave or vice versa. I've done it.. However it is not as efficient as the signal is attenuated. Both of these antennas radiate linearly polarized waves.

Other kinds of polarization are circular or more generally elliptical. In circular polarization, the orientation of both the electric field and magnetic field rotate through 360 degrees. Depending on which way the field rotates, a circularly polarized wave may be clockwise or counterclockwise. marlon's second ref is a good technical discussion of what I have given.

[edited by Russ on request]
 
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