Rearranging Exponential Curve Equation

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The problem involves rearranging an equation related to the discharge of a capacitor in an exponential decay context. The original poster is attempting to calculate the time it takes for a capacitor to discharge from a specific voltage using the formula V = Vo e^-t/RC.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster recalls needing to use the natural logarithm to manipulate the equation but is uncertain about the correct application. Some participants suggest "logifying" the equation, while others express confusion about the steps involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how to apply logarithmic functions to the equation. There is no explicit consensus yet, as some participants are struggling with the mathematical reasoning behind the rearrangement.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a specific expected outcome of approximately 3 seconds for the discharge, indicating a potential target for their calculations. There is also a reference to the use of a calculator, suggesting that participants are working through the problem numerically.

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Homework Statement



Hello. I'm afraid it's quite a simple and unexciting problem I have. Basically, I can't remember how to rearrange the equation for an exponential curve:

The capacitor has a capacitance of 0.63 mF and the resistance in the discharge circuit is
2.4 kΩ.

(i) Calculate the time constant of the discharge circuit. This I can do: -t = RC.
(ii) Show that it takes about 3 s to discharge the capacitor from 120 V to 15 V.


Homework Equations



V = Vo e^-t/RC

The Attempt at a Solution



I remember it's the above equation I need to use. And I remember it's to do with the "ln" button on my calculator. But I can't remember how, when or where I use it. I know it's meant to "get rid of" the e and make my -t/RC "un-square" themselves so I can rearrange the equation. Apologies for my terrible lack of physics vocabulary :P.

I've tried a combination of things, enclosing the whole equation in ln( ) but I can't get the right answer (which is 3.14 seconds) as I am not rearranging it properly.

I would appreciate any help anyone has.
 
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mandos said:
… Show that it takes about 3 s to discharge the capacitor from 120 V to 15 V.

V = Vo e^-t/RC

Hi mandos! :smile:

You're given V and V0, and you want to calculate t.

So just "logify" the whole equation :biggrin:

-t/RC = … ? :wink:
 
Hi, am sorry to be a pain but that makes no sense to me.

In my calculator, I try ln ((V*R*C)/(Vo)) and it gives me -1.66s.
 
mandos said:
Hi, am sorry to be a pain but that makes no sense to me.

In my calculator, I try ln ((V*R*C)/(Vo)) and it gives me -1.66s.

But you didn't "logify" …

ln(V) = ln(Vo e-t/RC) :wink:
 

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