Rearranging for x in Algebraic Manipulation Homework

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The discussion revolves around rearranging the equation GM/x^2 = Gm/(r - x)^2 to solve for x in terms of G, M, m, and r. Participants provide various methods and corrections, emphasizing the importance of simplifying the equation by canceling G from both sides. The conversation highlights the use of the quadratic formula to find x after rearranging the terms correctly. A key mistake noted was the omission of a minus sign in the final expression for x. Overall, the thread showcases collaborative problem-solving in algebraic manipulation.
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Hey I need to rearrange the following, and find x in terms of G, M, m, r
\frac{{GM}}{{x^2 }} = \frac{{Gm}}{{\left( {r - x} \right)^2 }}

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I haven't manged to get far with this problem as I am confused about the powers of x and how to manage them. This is where I have manged to get to:
<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> \frac{{GM}}{{x^2 }} = \frac{{Gm}}{{\left( {r - x} \right)^2 }} \\ <br /> x^2 \left( {r - x} \right)^2 = GM\left( {Gm} \right) \\ <br /> x^2 \left( {r^2 - 2rx + x^2 } \right) = G^2 Mm \\ <br /> r^2 x^2 - 2rx^3 + x^4 = G^2 Mm \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

Any help is greatly appreciated, many thanks in advance,
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What've you done in your first line? i.e. how does the original equation become x2(r-x)2=GM(Gm) ?
 
I have an idea.. multiply both sides by (1/G) or divide by G..
Then you'd get mx^2=M(r-x)^2 and work from there.
 
Could use the quadratic formula
 
Thanks cristo for having pointed out that stupid mistake.Pugfug90, your method doesn't seem to work, but thanks anyhow. Danago, thanks for your suggestion, as i have used it. Here is what i have managed to come up with:

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \frac{{GM}}{{x^2 }} = \frac{{Gm}}{{\left( {r - x} \right)^2 }} \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r - x} \right)^2 \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r - x} \right)\left( {r - x} \right) \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r^2 - 2rx + x^2 } \right) \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GMr^2 - 2GMrx + GMx^2 \\ <br /> - GMr^2 = - 2GMrx + GMx^2 - Gmx^2 \\ <br /> GMr^2 = 2GMrx - GMx^2 + Gmx^2 \\ <br /> 0 = \left( {Gm - GM} \right)x^2 + 2GMrx - GMr^2 \\ <br /> x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \\ <br /> x = \frac{{ - 2GMr \pm \sqrt {\left( {2GMr} \right)^2 - 4\left( {Gm - GM} \right)\left( {GMr^2 } \right)} }}{{2\left( {Gm - GM} \right)}} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

thanks once again for the help from those who replied
 
Why not cancel the G on both sides in the first line? There's no need to carry it through the calculation then.
 
oh true, thanks
other than that are my steps right?
thanks
 
unique_pavadrin said:
oh true, thanks
other than that are my steps right?
thanks
Not quite:
unique_pavadrin said:
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \frac{{GM}}{{x^2 }} = \frac{{Gm}}{{\left( {r - x} \right)^2 }} \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r - x} \right)^2 \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r - x} \right)\left( {r - x} \right) \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GM\left( {r^2 - 2rx + x^2 } \right) \\ <br /> Gmx^2 = GMr^2 - 2GMrx + GMx^2 \\ <br /> - GMr^2 = - 2GMrx + GMx^2 - Gmx^2 \\ <br /> GMr^2 = 2GMrx - GMx^2 + Gmx^2 \\ <br /> 0 = \left( {Gm - GM} \right)x^2 + 2GMrx - GMr^2 \\ <br /> x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \\ <br /> x = \frac{{ - 2GMr \pm \sqrt {\left( {2GMr} \right)^2 - 4\left( {Gm - GM} \right)\left( {GMr^2 } \right)} }}{{2\left( {Gm - GM} \right)}} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

You missed a minus sign in the last line: it should read (without the G's)x=\frac{-2Mr\pm\sqrt{4r^2M^2+4(m-M)Mr^2}}{2(m-M)}
 
kill the G!
 
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okay thanks cristo, that was great help thanks
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