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The discussion revolves around the characterization of the distribution of heads in a large number of fair coin flips, specifically focusing on a probability bound related to the occurrence of heads exceeding a certain threshold. Participants explore the derivation of a specific inequality from their textbook and its relation to known distributions and theorems.

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  • One participant questions the derivation of the inequality P[head>n/2 + k√n] < e^(-k^2)/2, noting that it seems to jump beyond the Bernoulli distribution and Chebyshev inequality without rigorous proof.
  • Another participant suggests that the inequality may be an approximation for the tail of the Bernoulli distribution for large samples.
  • Several participants request hints or guidance on how to derive the stated inequality, indicating a desire for a deeper understanding of the mathematical steps involved.
  • A participant mentions that while the result is not a straightforward consequence of the Bernoulli distribution and Chebyshev inequality, it might be provable from them with additional work.
  • Discussion includes the mean and variance of independent coin tosses, with a participant noting that the mean is N/2 and the variance is N(1/2)(1-1/2), suggesting a connection to the derivation process.
  • There is a mention of needing to establish an inequality relating 1/x^2 and e^(-x^2) to prove the result from Chebyshev's inequality.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of the inequality, with no consensus on how it relates to the Bernoulli distribution and Chebyshev inequality. Multiple viewpoints on the approach to deriving the inequality are present.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in their current understanding and the need for more rigorous mathematical steps to connect the inequality to the distributions they have learned.

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Suppose you flip a fair coin 10,000 time how can you characterize the distribution of the occurrence of head?

From the textbook, it says that P[head>n/2 + k√n] < e^(-k^2)/2, why is that and what is the derivation? What theorem is this, we had only learn Bernoulli distribution and Chebyshev so far, it seem odd that the textbook would jump to such a conclusion without rigorous proof.

Thanks in advance
 
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I haven't worked on it, but it looks like an approximation for the tail of the Bernoulli distribution for a large sample.
 
thanks for the reply, could you give me a hint for how would you go about deriving this
 
f24u7 said:
thanks for the reply, could you give me a hint for how would you go about deriving this

The first step is to approximate the tail by an integral.
 
f24u7 said:
we had only learn Bernoulli distribution and Chebyshev so far

I haven't worked on the problem either. I agree that the result is not a simple consequence of the bernoulli distribution and the Chebyshev inequality, but you might be able to prove it from them with some work.

The mean of N independent tosses of a fair coin (landing "0" or "1") is the sum of the mean of the results of the individual tosses and the variance is the sum of the individual variances. So you have a mean of N/2 and variance of N(1/2)(1-1/2). To prove the result from the Chebyshev inequality, you'd need to work out an inequality relating 1/x^2 and e^(-x^2).
 

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