Relation between chirality and spin

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between chirality and spin in the context of particle decay processes, particularly focusing on the Higgs boson and its decay modes. Participants explore the implications of chirality and helicity in quantum electrodynamics (QED) and quantum chromodynamics (QCD), as well as the conservation laws governing these processes.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that decay modes producing two particles with the same chirality have a Matrix Element of 0, suggesting conservation of angular momentum, particularly in the context of weak decays.
  • Another participant emphasizes that chirality is not the same as helicity for massive particles, asserting that fundamental conservation laws are upheld within the Standard Model.
  • A participant questions how a spin 0 massive particle can decay into two right-handed particles while conserving momentum, seeking clarification on the calculations involved.
  • There is a call for clarity regarding whether "RH" refers to helicity or chirality in the context of the discussion.
  • One participant explains that the Higgs boson decays as described due to the specific form of Yukawa couplings dictated by local gauge symmetry, referencing a lecture for further details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between chirality and helicity, with some emphasizing their distinction while others appear to conflate the two. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these concepts for particle decay processes.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of chirality and helicity, as well as the assumptions underlying the conservation laws in the Standard Model. Some mathematical steps and calculations related to momentum conservation in particle decays are not fully explored.

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When learning about chirality I was very surprised to find that for QED and QCD the decay modes that would produce 2 particles with the same chirality had a Matrix Element of 0, which I took to mean that angular momentum was being conserved.

Even the W only decay into RH antiparticles and LH particles, conserving momentum. And the Z, that weird bastard, decays into pairs of fermion and anti-fermion where one is RH and the other is LH.

All of this seemed to me a consequence of conservation of angular momentum that not even the Weak Force could break.

But then I learn that the Higgs **only** decays into pairs of fermion-anti-fermion *with the same chirality*... how does that make any sense?

If chirality is Lorentz-invariant helicity, and helicity is spin projected with momentum, then non-conservation of chirality surely breaks the conservation of either spin or momentum, right?
 
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For massive particles chirality is NOT the same as helicity. Of course the fundamental conservation laws of the proper orthochronous Poincare group (energy, momentum, angular momentum) are strictly conserved within the Standard Model, which is based on this very symmetry to begin with!
 
vanhees71 said:
For massive particles chirality is NOT the same as helicity. Of course the fundamental conservation laws of the proper orthochronous Poincare group (energy, momentum, angular momentum) are strictly conserved within the Standard Model, which is based on this very symmetry to begin with!

Then I just want to understand, if I have a spin 0 massive particle and it decays into 2 RH particles, how does that conserve momentum?, what calculation can I make?
 
Again, you are confusing helicity with chirality. To ask a clear question, you need to state whether "RH" refers to helicity or chirality.
 
In the standard Standard Model it's pretty easy to understand that the Higgs boson must decay in the way you describe since the corresponding Yukawa couplings can only take this form according to the local gauge symmetry ##\mathrm{SU}(2)_{\text{WISO}} \times \mathrm{U}(1)_{\text{Y}}##. For details, see the QFD section of the following lecture (presentation):

https://th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/hqm-lectweek14/ebernburg14-1.pdf
 

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