Relationship between roots and coefficients

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The discussion centers on the relationship between roots and coefficients of polynomials, specifically regarding the sums of roots taken one, two, three, and four at a time. The user successfully solved part one of their homework by using simultaneous equations but struggles with proving that two curves are tangent at specific points. Clarification is sought on demonstrating that points of intersection indicate tangency, given that the curves can intersect at multiple points. The conversation also touches on the nature of roots in a fourth-degree polynomial, suggesting that alpha and beta may be double roots. The overall focus is on understanding the geometric implications of polynomial roots and their coefficients.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Sum of roots taken one at a time is -b/a
Sum of roots taken two at a time is c/a
three at a time is -d/a
four at a time is e/a

The Attempt at a Solution


I did part one by solving the two equations simultaneously.
For part two, I said that it has those roots because that is where the two curves touch
I'm stuck on part three - tried to solve it by applying the above equations and eliminating \gamma and \delta since they are equal to \alpha and \beta respectively but this did not work.
Help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
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aanandpatel said:

Homework Statement



Homework Equations



Sum of roots taken one at a time is -b/a
Sum of roots taken two at a time is c/a
three at a time is -d/a
four at a time is e/a

The Attempt at a Solution


I did part one by solving the two equations simultaneously.
For part two, I said that it has those roots because that is where the two curves touch
I'm stuck on part three - tried to solve it by applying the above equations and eliminating \gamma and \delta since they are equal to \alpha and \beta respectively but this did not work.
Help would be greatly appreciated :)

For (i). Solving the equations simultaneously only means that the points satisfying that equation are on both the circle and one hyperbola. It doesn't mean that such points occur where the curves are tangent to each other.

Since this is in the pre-calculus section, I ask, do you know how to show that the points of intersection are points of tangency ?
 
The question says that the curves touch at the points A and B so I assumed they were tangential to each other at those points. Not sure how I would prove it otherwise seeing as I only have an x value for the points.
 
It's possible for these curves to intersect in as many as 4 points. The fact that they intersect (touch) at only two points is a hint to answering question ii .

How many real roots can a degree 4 polynomial have in general ?
 
a fourth degree polynomial has 4 roots therefore alpha and beta are double roots?
 
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