Relative velocity in inertial frame

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The discussion revolves around the concept of relative velocity in the context of a swimmer moving across a river with a current. Participants are exploring the vector nature of velocity and its components in relation to the swimmer's movement and the water's flow.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the vector components of velocity, questioning how to properly account for the swimmer's speed relative to both the water and the river's width. There are attempts to derive time based on the swimmer's velocity across the river and the downstream current.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on how to break down the swimmer's velocity into components. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the calculations needed to arrive at the correct answer.

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There are references to textbook answers and the need for accurate calculations to proceed with subsequent parts of the problem. Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the application of distance and velocity in their calculations.

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The swimmer will move in the direction of resultant of his velocity and velocity of water.
Draw the diagram and the try to solve it.
 
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velocity is a vector and has two components (e.g. v_x and v_y)
 
slaw155 said:

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So here's what I've got so far:
(a) v(swimmer relative to water) = v(swimmer relative to current) + v(current relative to water)
so v^2(swimmer relative to current) = 1.98^2 -0.508^2 -> this gives you v, and then you divide 2230m/v to get time, however, I end up getting the incorrect answer using this working (according to the textbook answer). And I need the correct answer to this to be able to answer (b).

You are using distance = width of the river , but dividing by the net speed of the swimmer .

The velocity of swimmer has two perpendicular components , one across the width of the river ,other along the flow of water .

What is the component of velocity across the width of the river ?
 
Vibhor said:
You are using distance = width of the river , but dividing by the net speed of the swimmer .

The velocity of swimmer has two perpendicular components , one across the width of the river ,other along the flow of water .

What is the component of velocity across the width of the river ?


So the velocity across the width of the river is 1.98m/s. So I would go 2230/1.98 to get the time? And then to get horizontal distance traveled I would multiply this time by 0.508 (the downstream speed)?
 
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