Relative Velocity of P & Q: Magnitude & Direction

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A particle P moves in a circle of radius 3m with an angular velocity of π/4 rad/s, while particle Q moves in a circle of radius 2m at π/2 rad/s, both clockwise. The initial positions of P and Q are collinear at the north of the center O. The calculated relative velocity of P with respect to Q is initially found to be 5.49 m/s, but the expected answer is 5.09 m/s. The discrepancy arises from potential errors in applying the cosine rule or miscalculating angles. The discussion emphasizes the importance of simplifying calculations to avoid mistakes.
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A particle , P moves on a horizontal plane along the circumference of a circle with centre O and a radius of 3m at an angular velocity of pi/4 rad/s in the clockwise direction . A second particle , Q moves on the same plane along a circle with radius 2m and the same centre as the first circle at an angular velocity of pi/2 rad/s in the clockwise direction . At first , O, P and Q are collinear with P and Q located at the north of O . Find the magnitude and direction of the velocity of P relative to Q .

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the angular displacement of P and Q are 3pi/4 and 3pi/2 respectively .

The linear velocities of P and Q are 3pi/4 and pi respectively .

then one of the angle of the triangle is 3pi/4

so i can use the cosine rule ,

|pVq|^2=pi^2+(3pi/4)^2-2pi(3pi/4)cos (3pi/4)

|pVq|=5.49 m/s

bu the answer given is 5.09 m/s

where did i go wrong ?
 

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Hi thereddevils! :smile:

(have a pi: π and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
thereddevils said:
|pVq|^2=pi^2+(3pi/4)^2-2pi(3pi/4)cos (3pi/4)! :smile:

|pVq|=5.49 m/s

bu the answer given is 5.09 m/s

where did i go wrong ?

(i assume this is to be calculated after 3 seconds?)

General tip: take out any awkward factors first … then you're less likely to make mistakes, and if you do make one, you're more likely to see where it is.

Then your equation is (π/4)2 times (9 + 16 + 2*3*4*1/√2) = (π/4)2(25 + 12√2) … :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi thereddevils! :smile:

(have a pi: π and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)


(i assume this is to be calculated after 3 seconds?)

General tip: take out any awkward factors first … then you're less likely to make mistakes, and if you do make one, you're more likely to see where it is.

Then your equation is (π/4)2 times (9 + 16 + 2*3*4*1/√2) = (π/4)2(25 + 12√2) … :wink:


thanks tiny , is my mistake in the calculation in the cosine rule , or the diagram is wrong ?
 
I think your calculator is wrong. :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
I think your calculator is wrong. :redface:

lol ! , its in radians mode

thanks a lot !
 
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