Relativistic acceleration with integration problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a relativistic acceleration problem for a spaceship that simulates Earth's gravity. The key equation involves the Lorentz factor, and the challenge lies in integrating to find the final velocity after time T. Participants highlight the confusion stemming from the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and time, particularly how to handle the integration with respect to different variables. A suggestion is made to use a trigonometric substitution to simplify the integral, which could lead to the desired result. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying calculus and the chain rule in the context of relativistic physics.
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Homework Statement



Consider a spaceship that accelerates so that the passengers feel and acceleration equal to that of gravity of the earth’s surface, g. If the spaceship undergoes this acceleration for a time T, show that the final velocity is given by:
V=c[1+(c/gT)^2]^(-1/2)


Homework Equations



F=(gamma^3)ma where gamma= [1-(v/c)^2]^-1/2 (the Lorentz factor)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the passengers always feel the acceleration of gravity, you don’t actually feel acceleration you feel the force mg. So at any time the passengers must feel mg so:

mg=(gamma^3)ma
a=g/(gamma^3)

I converted gamma into the function and tried to integrate to obtain V but that’s where I got stuck .

a=g[1-(v/c)^2]^3/2

I trying to integrate with respect to dt but v it self is a dx/dt so I am wierded out by that. I went to the professor and he gave me a hint in which I have to convert adt into another thing using the chain rule (whatever that means).
Somehow I think I have to integrate with respect to dv and have my limit be gT instead of T but iam not sure how to get to there.

Any help is greatly appreciated I have my test this week and I need to get a A :(.
 
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Hi Gravitino22! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

Your professor is probably thinking of something like
∫ f(v) dt = ∫ [f(v) / (dv/dt)] dv/dt dt = … :wink:
 
Use the definition of acceleration is to express the LHS in terms of v and t.
 
vela said:
Use the definition of acceleration is to express the LHS in terms of v and t.

Thats what i was trying

a=dv/dt then pass dt to the RHS to integrate and which also has a v=dx/dt which is where iam confused.

And for tiny-tim's response

Iam not seeing where your going with that...

=f(v)dtdv? double integration?
 
a=dv/dt, so you can write dv/dt=g[1-(v/c)^2]^3/2. You can integrate that to get a relationship between v and t. It's true that v=dx/dt, but since you're not asked to find x as a function of t, this equation is irrelevant.
 
The differential equation is separable, so you can get all the v's on one side and t on the other and then integrate each side.
 
Thanks vela,

I was trying that approach earlier but i can't solve that nasty integral, going to keep trying
 
Use the trig substitution v/c=sin θ. Then don't make the really stupid mistake I did, and the answer (for the integral) will pop right out.
 
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