Reshaping Complex Equations in LTI-Systems: Solving for the System Function H(z)

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The discussion revolves around the computation of the System Function H(z) from a given frequency response of an LTI system. The original poster presents a specific equation involving complex exponentials and seeks to reshape it into a standard form with integer powers of z.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the given frequency response to express it in a desired polynomial form. Some participants suggest using Euler's equation and properties of exponents to aid in the transformation. Others express confusion regarding the formatting of the equations and the representation of terms.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging with the problem, offering hints and discussing the challenges faced in achieving the desired form of the equation. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved, particularly with the presence of square roots and the need to clarify the formatting of expressions. No explicit consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions the possibility of the system being an FIR filter, which implies certain characteristics about the coefficients in the polynomial form. There is also a request for clarification on formatting equations, indicating potential communication barriers in expressing mathematical ideas.

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Hi!

New go on my problem with LTI-system which really is a math-problem:

My problem i can't solve:

Compute the System Function H(z) from the Frequency

H(e^jw)=2*exp^(-j*3/2*w)*[cos(w/2)]^2

In other words i need to reshape the equation where i only have exp^(-j*k*w), where k is an integer.

Then the answer should be in the form:
H(z)= (b_0+b_1 z^(-1)+b_2 z^(-2)+⋯)/(1-a_1 z^(-1)-a_2 z^(-2)-…)
where z = exp^jw, and the b and a are constants.

Thx for any help!
 
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hi mkkribor! welcome to pf! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

hint: use Euler's equation and the formula xab = (xa)b :wink:
 
Thx for answer, and I see that solves it for what I first asked for. But then i get squareroots and I still can't get it in the form I want:

H([e]^{}[/jw]) = [_{}[/0]+_{}[/1][e]^{}[/-jw]+...+_{}[/m][e]^{}[/-jmw]]\frac{}{}[/1-[a]_{}[/1][e]^{}[/-jw]+...+[a]_{}[/n]*[e]^{}[/-jnw]]

where n,m = integers and the a-s and b-s can be anything. (Most likely in this case, its an FIR-filter, which means that all the a-s coefficients are zero)

Can you help me on this please?
 
Ok, i clearly don't understand how to use the formating;), but i can attach a photo of the equation if you doent see what it says?
 
hi mkkribor! :smile:

hmm :rolleyes: … let's decode this …

H(e/jw) = b0 + b1e/jw + ... + _{}[/m]e-/jw\frac{}{}[/1-[a]_{}[/1][e]^{}[/-jw]+...+[a]_{}[/n]*[e]^{}[/-jnw]


no, i give up :redface:

to make b1ejw, type [NOPARSE]"b1ejw"[/NOPARSE] :smile:
 

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