Reverse calculation of radius and principal planes of thick lens

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The discussion focuses on the reverse calculation of the radius and principal planes of a thick lens using the shaping factor and focal length. The equations derived for the radii, 1/r1 and 1/r2, are based on the focal length equation 1/f = (n-1)*[1/r1 - 1/r2 +(n-1)*d/(n*r1*r2)] and the shaping factor X = (r2 + r1)/(r2 - r1). However, these equations yield complex numbers when the condition (X^2-1)*d/(n*f) < -1 is met, indicating a limitation in their applicability. The user seeks alternative solutions or more general equations to address this issue.

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Dear All,

I need you kind support in a problem, which I am unable to figure out. It is regarding thick lens.

I am determining lens principal planes and radius using shaping factor and focal length. The forward problem I am using is,
Focal length
1/f = (n-1)*[1/r1 - 1/r2 +(n-1)*d/(n*r1*r2)]
Shaping factor
X = (r2 + r1)/(r2 - r1)
Solving these two equations for r1 and r2, I get.
1/r1 = (X+1)/ [f * (n-1)*(1+sqrt(1+(X^2-1)*d/(n*f)))]
1/r2 = (X-1)/ [f * (n-1)*(1+sqrt(1+(X^2-1)*d/(n*f)))]

These equations return complex number when (X^2-1)*d/(n*f) < -1. So I cannot use these equations for this domain and I have no idea how to determine radius and principal planes in such a case. Any body know a solution for this domain or more general equations?

Thanks in anticipation for reading and support.
 
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taimoortalpur said:
Dear All,

I need you kind support in a problem, which I am unable to figure out. It is regarding thick lens.

I am determining lens principal planes and radius using shaping factor and focal length. The forward problem I am using is,
Focal length
1/f = (n-1)*[1/r1 - 1/r2 +(n-1)*d/(n*r1*r2)]
Shaping factor
X = (r2 + r1)/(r2 - r1)
Solving these two equations for r1 and r2, I get.
1/r1 = (X+1)/ [f * (n-1)*(1+sqrt(1+(X^2-1)*d/(n*f)))]
1/r2 = (X-1)/ [f * (n-1)*(1+sqrt(1+(X^2-1)*d/(n*f)))]

These equations return complex number when (X^2-1)*d/(n*f) < -1. So I cannot use these equations for this domain and I have no idea how to determine radius and principal planes in such a case. Any body know a solution for this domain or more general equations?

Thanks in anticipation for reading and support.

Does these sources help ? :

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/priplan.html
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~cass/courses/m309-04a/sol4.pdf
 

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